Story of Durga?

Ok i heard this story that once durga is hiding away from some 2 demons & gone to some mountains.Where Guru Tegh bahadur ji was on samdhi & he assures durga that nothing happen to her in his custody, then demons came Guru ji sitting on loin Skin.He standup from it put tht khal in hand te ohnu Chadiya ohde vich ik shakti nikli Jinna ne ohna Demons nu maar ditta,
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After this durga came out & thanku guru ji & saying that in future u will make a relegion who name as Khalsa (bec. it is loin Khal from which that shakti came)
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Is this from Dasam GRanth & if yes from which part so that i want to know katha of it
So plz anybudy Put light on this topic
plz thx

 
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this post appeared wrord for word on tapoban Forum as well BUT under another name....RAMAN. I wonder why the Duality in identity ??

GURBANI urges us to ABANDON DUALITY....maybe a few thousand Panktees in Guru Granth say this !!!.

Now to this "durga" story... GURU GOBIND SINGH JI pargat karo the KHALSA as AKAAL PURAKH KI FAUJ...with the express permisiion of WAHEGURU. It is universally accepted that "WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH." pargitiyo khlasa akal purakh ki MAUJ..at God's PLEASURE..and not due to any durga or shiva or anything else.

The durga story appears in Suraj parkash probably put in by the autor on his own under bigger brahmin infuences.

Jarnail singh

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I read the post about Durga Story and thought to post a reply according to my little understanding which Guru has given. With Wahegurus Grace and pleasant coincidence I have just finished reading a book named " Dasam Garanth Darpan" written by Giani Bhag Singh ji Ambala.
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In this book author has been very honest and tried to differentiate Guru Gobind Singh Ji's Bani from other Bramhmanical Stories in the light of Sri Guru Granth Sahib jis Bani.

According to Sikh Theologists Quoted in the book following things came out:-

The Durga Story is from Dasam Granth, and it comes under name of "Bachitar Natak". Dasam Granth has only 5 Banis from Guru Gobind Singh ji i.e Jap Sahib,33 Swaiyee (Leaving last Few Questions) , Jafarnama, Akal Ustat, Shabad Hajare. Bachitar Natak isnt one of these five.

Other writtings are from two main kavis Ram Kavi and Sham Kavi, They were wroshipper of Mahakal and Devi Bhawani or Durga. In order to prove that Guru Gobind Singh ji also worshipped these dities, two SAKATMATI KAVIS, Ram and Sham, used Guru's name as heading in all the writtings in order to show that these were written by GURU. They wrote all the stories like Bachitar Natak and Charitarpokiyan which is full of filth and dirty stories of intimate male female relations.

Even on reading them first time the reader can clearly note the thought difference between Guru Ji's Bani and Other Kavi's Writting. Its because of lack of responsible action taking and ineffciencies of Sikh organisation like SGPC that some people are now-a-days quoting "DASAM Garanth" parallel to "Sri Guru Garanth Sahib ji". We need to be aware of these sinister designs of evil thinking people who want to assimilate the Sikhi into idol or Diety Worshippers.

These are the most summarised things I can write in this matter. Anybody more interested to search into it can get the above mentioned and book and read it. Its in Punjabi and local gurudawara's might have it in their library.

Bul Chuk di Maffi

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Gyani Jarnail Singh Veerji i am the one only who have posted @ tapoban also

Acha veero te bheno i found some author titles who have done phd on Dasam Granth & proved that It Is by Guru Gobind Singh Ji
If anybody readed it plz share with us
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Dasam Granth Sahib Kisne Banaiya? By Bhai Bishan Singh
Dasmesh Darpan ("Mirror of the Tenth Guru") by Bhai Sher Singh
Dasme Patshah Ji ka Granth da Itihas by Bhai Randhir Singhs
Dasam Granth Roop te Ras by Dr. Taran Singh

gurfateh

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Ok i heard this story that once durga is hiding away from some 2 demons & gone to some mountains.Where Guru Tegh bahadur ji was on samdhi & he assures durga that nothing happen to her in his custody, then demons came Guru ji sitting on loin Skin.He standup from it put tht khal in hand te ohnu Chadiya ohde vich ik shakti nikli Jinna ne ohna Demons nu maar ditta, After this durga came out & thanku guru ji & saying that in future u will make a relegion who name as Khalsa (bec. it is loin Khal from which that shakti came) Is this from Dasam GRanth & if yes from which part so that i want to know katha of it So plz anybudy Put light

Das is sorry for long absense here as he was away with some work.
Anyway regarding this story it is NOT in Dasham Granth and there must not be jumping of the guns like S Bhag Singh Ji Ambala did and Respected S. Gurbax Singh Ji Kala Afghana are doing.Without understanding both Guru Granth sahib Ji and Dasham Granth Sahib Ji.
Large part of Dasham Granth is online at gobinsadan and sikhnet part.
Das is not arguing that if Dasham Granth is writtan by Guru but that it is writtan as per Gurmat and not by a foe of Panth.
Coming back to story it is found both in Mangal Prakash(Sau Sakhi) and Bijai mukt Sakhi 10th(500 Sakhi's only reamaing part).
This not writtan by Guru and Guru ji are quoted and both the storeirs in both books are not the same but with waste differance as in Mangal Praksah it was Man Dusht Daman who ermerged while perhaps other says of a Leoprad or lion.
DAS OPINE THAT THIS STORY IS SOMETHING WHICH WE NEED TO BE LEAST BOTHERED. Reason being that onl;y those cults who instead of preaching Gurmat idealogy prefer to preach personal miracles like food going in jail(as if Sikhs and Sikhnis who tolrated hunger in the jail of meer Mannu were sinner) tend to encourage such fairy tails.
Well weather this story is true or false.IT gives us a straight message.
Jagat Mata(mother of universe as per them) of Hindus need help of worshipper of Akal.So she might have served the worshipper of Akal.
So for us we need nver worship any godess or god but God of Gods Akal.
There are mnay myths which are been spread about Dasham Granth and Raag Mala in past and in present by Anti Sikh foreces.Das is pointing towrads Arya Samajis and Some guys from Sangh.Das request that Singhs like S Gurbax Singh Ji and his supporters must counter them instead of running away or denying that these propondana is coorect but this is not bani.
When foe attack land claiming it.Brave is won who takes over the land of agressor and not the one who says that this land is not ours.
Perhaps hindutva people need to understand holy Vedas first and holy Puranas before commenting on our scriptures.

Das would like to say that Akal is omni potant ie can do any thing liked by Akal.It can act in beast as beast are Akal’s form so we can have Akal in elements working to do something helping us.

It can not be ruled out that fropm no where Akal can take the shape of Brahma,Vishnu,Mahesh,Gabreil,Michael,Durga,Shkra,V inyaka etc. and even if you see them we need to understand that they are only temporary froms and only permanent is Akal.(IK KAAL AKAL SADAIV HAI)only Akal,the one in Time is eternal(Vachitar Natak).

So even if Das sees any supernatural feature of Sematic or eastern Faiths due to the Bani of Guru in Dasham Granth Das will still have faith in truth who is Akal,Who is in all.
And that is the crux of that story.

To be clear story states that in old age demons attacked devi and she took refuge to a sage worshipper of Akal,who by might of worship let Man come out of his clothing below the belt made up of Tiger Hide. That man destroyed demons.

Devi said thank and commited herself to serve the creed,who would follow sage(who was to be Ninth Master) and that Man(who was to be the son of Sage as Tenth Master).

Till then Sage tells Man to do worship at Hemkunt.As Man killed evil so he was named Dusht(Evil’s) Daman(oppressor).

Here we have got a a mesasage of contemporaryhistory.Demons ie fantics of Jihadi Auranga(Aurangzeb) were oppressing humanity(Devi) who could be hindus,bohra sunnis,shia,Budhist,Jains or Sikhs.

They were saved by a Sage who have his skin,his head and his life and from that does Dushat Daman Khalsa emerged.That’s all and that’s it.

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vijaydeep singh ji thank god you are back.i read many of you posts
and i am your fan.you doing excellent work.

i have a question about dasam granth which only a person like you can answer in the end of the chandi di var guru gobind singh ji wrote

All the Pauris (stanza) of this DURGA PATH (The text about the exploits of Durga) have been composed;

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And that person who sings it, will not take birth again.55.
on the other hand it is written in guru granth sahib not to worship goddess

mahaa maa-ee kee poojaa karai.
One who worships the Great Goddess Maya

nr sY nwir hoie AauqrY ]3] (874-15, goNf, Bgq nwmdyv jI)
nar sai naar ho-ay a-utarai. ||3||
will be reincarnated as a woman, and not a man. ||3||

qU khIAq hI Awid BvwnI ] (874-15, goNf, Bgq nwmdyv jI)
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too kahee-at hee aad bhavaanee.
You are called the Primal Goddess.

mukiq kI brIAw khw CpwnI ]4] (874-16, goNf, Bgq nwmdyv jI)
mukat kee baree-aa kahaa chhapaanee. ||4||
At the time of liberation, where will you hide then? ||4||

please tell me why are they contradictory. i will be very grate ful to you if you answer my question

Gurfateh

Das will be very much obliged that the verses as a whole could have been givne whith the page nos.

Anyway Das would like to have those verses in actual Sanskrit/Braj/Punjabi or Farsi.

Well there should not be any seco d question that No where in the Dasham Granth it is writtan to worship Devi.

Adi Guru Granth Sahib Ji clearly state that who so ever will worship Devi will be reborn as a women.

Then if it is writtan that if some reads 'Durga Patth' will not be reborn has message hidden here itself.

As we read the Charitar of Devi in Chandi Chairtar or other verses in fact in Triya Charitar also Devis like Chandi,Radh etc who are regarded as godess inn hindus are termed as women.As Vachitar Natak also says that by deeds only man is god or demon.
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SO WRITING IF AT ALL IT MEANS THAT BY BY READING SO CALLED DURGA PATH ONE IS NOT REBORN AS ANSWER FROM ADI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI THEMSELVES.

A PERSON WHO WILL READ DASHAM GURUS BANI WILL NOT WORSHIP ANY god or godess AS THEY ARE TERMED AS AVTARS OR INCARNATIONS OR BORN WHILE AKAL IS AJUNI OR NEVER BORN BUT ETERNAL.

SO AFTER READING BANI OF TENTH MASTER NO ONE WILL WORSHIP DEVI BUT AKAL SO WILLNOT BE REBORN AS WOMEN BUT WILL BE ONE WITH AKAL.AKAL BLESS.

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the page no.of dasam granth is 325 where it is written that person who sing chandi di vaar will not take birth again

also please tell me about another quote from dasam granth
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sagal jagat mein Khalsa panth gajje |

jage dharam Hindu sakal dand bhajai |

Translation : "Let the Khalsa panth (sect) become popular all over the world and let the Hindu Dharam (religion) wake up (or be enlighten) and all the bad ones run away." - Shri Guru Gobind Singh ji
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on a hindu website a person was trying to prove that sikhs are hindus because of this quote .i was unable to answer him.also this quote is in ugradanti i have,nt read that because it is not available on internet

Gurfateh

Das will read this Chandi Matter Again But is again repeating that Guru tells that Chandi is is women and not a deity and will not help and hence must not worshipped so by reading this we will not worship women or Mahamai and will not be reborn.
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Then caome the Ugrandi Bani.

It is not included in Manna Singh/Dr Jodh Singh Version of
Dasham Granth ie with 1428 pages.

But Nihungs and Namdhari Sing it.


And like fool Hindus qoute it.

Any way the correct verses are like that
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Sakal Jagat Main Panth Khalsa Gaje

Jage Dharam Hindak Turk Dundh Bhaje

Translation as per Gurmat and Nihuings as follow.

When in whole World Khalsa Panth will Roar(Spread)

Dhram(Righousness) of hindus(Indians)(which is sleeeping) will be awaken and Mist(of ignorance) in Turks will also runaway/Broken.


Here it has been told that ultimatly Panth Khalsa will uplift Hindus and Turks aftering subduing them and perhaps cinverting them.