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14-Jun-2012, 07:23 AM
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I truly believe that the real king was and always will be Elvis Presley. Unh haanh.
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15-Jun-2012, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Kamala 
Not wanting to start debates anymore, think whatever you want~~
| Kamala Ji,
I do find that you kind of expect to have more open mindedness discussion on references as per Gurbani on Hinduism engulfed facts.
On page 263 Line 16 it is stated:
Har Simran Lag Bayd Upaa-ay
Remembering the Lord, the Vedas were composed.
Who then composed the Vedas?
Are Vedas really Hinduism at all?
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15-Jun-2012, 13:40 PM
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Connection of Iranian and Sanskrit texts. |
15-Jun-2012, 14:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckysingh I truly believe that the real king was and always will be Elvis Presley. Unh haanh. | | | The following member appreciates harry haller Ji for the above message. | |
15-Jun-2012, 17:43 PM
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Who then composed the Vedas?
Are Vedas really Hinduism at all?
| Haha interesting the level non hindus try to tell hindus what theior faith is about, laughable.
Ok this tinpot aryan invasion theory which came and wiped out the harappan civilisation and brought Vedas has been slamm dunked to the dustbin of human history, why, well there was a river called saraswati in ancient times in North India, which dried up and this caused the harappan civilisation to disband not some magical aryan invaders, and why does Vedas not quote geographical locations in central asia but India: http://www.boloji.com/index.cfm?md=C...&ArticleID=740 Quote: The word ‘Arya’ itself is not used in the context of race anywhere in the Vedas. It is a form of address to give respect as in Sir or Monsieur
Now if an invader came and drove the inhabitants out, logic dictates that such an invader would occupy these towns. But archaeological findings prove this was not the case. And these ‘great invaders’ who came from the north west and occupied this land, sang the praises of our rivers, glorified our mountains and called this the holy land. Not their own homeland? That doesn’t make sense. Every reference to any place in the scriptures can be found on what is still, to this day, the Indian sub-continent. Not one place is somewhere in Central Asia or Europe where these supposed invaders came from | | | The following member appreciates dogra Ji for the above message. | |
15-Jun-2012, 17:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Kamala I also almost always see people on this site saying that reincarnation and karma is not part of Sikhism, which is extremely incorrect. |
There is a reason why the Sikh concept of Karma and the Hindu one's differ hugely. Two words - Caste System.
Hindu's believe in castes based on previous Karma. They believe in subdivisions in the following way:
1) Brahmin
2) Kshatriya
3) Vaishnav
4) Sudra
5) Untouchable/ some animals
6) Animals
7) Plants
8) Minerals/Rocks etc
Sikh's believe as Human beings we are all one when we are born - only animals, plants, minerals/rocks are lower than humans. Sikh subdivision based on Karma is:
1) HUMAN
2) Plant/Animal/Rock
Therefore the concept of reincarnation in Sikhism and Hunduism cannot be the same. | | The following members appreciate Randip Singh Ji for the above message. | |
15-Jun-2012, 19:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Randip Singh There is a reason why the Sikh concept of Karma and the Hindu one's differ hugely. Two words - Caste System.
Hindu's believe in castes based on previous Karma. They believe in subdivisions in the following way:
1) Brahmin
2) Kshatriya
3) Vaishnav
4) Sudra
5) Untouchable/ some animals
6) Animals
7) Plants
8) Minerals/Rocks etc
Sikh's believe as Human beings we are all one when we are born - only animals, plants, minerals/rocks are lower than humans. Sikh subdivision based on Karma is:
1) HUMAN
2) Plant/Animal/Rock
Therefore the concept of reincarnation in Sikhism and Hunduism cannot be the same. |
What are u talking about believe in caste system, there is no caste system in vedas: http://agniveer.com/888/caste-system/ Quote:
The word ‘Varna’ is used not only for these four, but also for Dasyu and Arya.
‘Varna’ means one that is adopted by choice. Thus, while Jaati is provided by God, ‘Varna’ is our own choice.
Those who choose to be Arya are called ‘Arya Varna’. Those who choose to be Dasyu become ‘Dasyu Varna’. Same for Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya and Shudra.
That is why Vedic Dharma is called ‘Varnashram Dharma’. The word Varna itself implies that this is based on complete freedom of choice and meritocracy.
| There is no birth based caste, our functions are based on our training as per Hindu scriptures.
Each function has to have a name, or do you suggest each function like priest, cleaner, hunter defender becalled nothing, jeez! Each function has dignity if Labour, no fucntion should be demeaned as all we are all human beings and all functions come togther for the betterment of society.
We are all equal in human terms, and gain professions according to our trainig and abilities, this is not based on birth hence why Lord Krishna says: Quote: In The Bhagawad Gita, sloka 20, Chapter 10, Lord Krishna says, "I am the Self seated in the heart of all creatures. I am the beginning, the middle and the very end of all beings". All beings have, therefore to be treated alike. " | Note the word ALL.
Next prime directive of Hindu faith is Moksha-merging with God so to speak, but this can only happen iof a person leads a noble life, dharmic life
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15-Jun-2012, 20:14 PM
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http://www.paklinks.com/gs/religion-...-casteism.html Quote:
Thus, the central command of the 14 harmony richas and 10 profession not hereditary richas of Vedas is that all Hindus are totally equal by birth, of one bunch, share same water and food, worship together united in same temple, common are prayers, common purpose, common thoughts, united like spokes of a wheel, common oblation and friendly towards each others.
One becomes a warrior (Rajnya), Brahman (educated ones) or rishi, not by birth but by his efforts/training (karma) vide RV (X.125.5). No one is superior and no one is inferior by birth.
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15-Jun-2012, 20:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dogra What are u talking about believe in caste system, there is no caste system in vedas: http://agniveer.com/888/caste-system/
There is no birth based caste, our functions are based on our training as per Hindu scriptures.
Each function has to have a name, or do you suggest each function like priest, cleaner, hunter defender becalled nothing, jeez! Each function has dignity if Labour, no fucntion should be demeaned as all we are all human beings and all functions come togther for the betterment of society.
We are all equal in human terms, and gain professions according to our trainig and abilities, this is not based on birth hence why Lord Krishna says:
Note the word ALL.
Next prime directive of Hindu faith is Moksha-merging with God so to speak, but this can only happen iof a person leads a noble life, dharmic life | There is no caste system in Hinduism? Is the world also flat?  | | The following members appreciate Randip Singh Ji for the above message. | | 
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