Baba Ramdev Praises Guru Gobind Singh

harry haller · #19 (**permalink**) 30-Apr-2012, 20:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dogra

Again, what we have are signs of character, and the case for a charlatan, imo, are not met, as his exercises have benefited many people, and this benefit is important to value.
Now not claiming he is some great saint, just saying he has some importance given the benefit of his exercises to the well being of the participants and for this he deserves credit.

and also Richard Bingley, he deserves credit too, he is the instructor at the local swimming pool.

BhagatSingh · #20 (**permalink**) 01-May-2012, 05:09 AM

Prakash ji
Are you suggesting Yoga is only exercise?
Yoga is a practice towards union of consciousness with Ultimate consciousness. It could be through physical exercise (Hatha Yoga), through daily actions (Karma Yoga), through knowledge (Gyana Yoga), etc.

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As I have understood there are 72 dharams in accordance of Vedas any person is required to adopt to be true Dhramic one.Yoga is one of them .

What are the other 71 dharams?

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Originally Posted by prakash.s.bagga

From Gurbanee we Sikhs learn about only one DHARAM which is stated to be the best of all.You may understand a Quote from Gurbanee as
"Sarab dharam Main Shreshat Dharamu,Hari Ko Naamu Jap Nirmal Karamu"
Baanee Sukhmani in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

Except for Single Dharam of Simran of Hari Naamu,

Otherwise known as Bhagati Yoga (translated as union of consciousness with Ultimate consciousness through love and devotion).

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all others have been set aside for Sikhs.

Since there is an element of Dharam in Yoga which which can not and should not be accepted by Sikhs .This is what I mean as diluting effect
of Yoga under the banner of Dharam activity.

No body can deny the role of physical excercise in maintaining the functioning of body in active state.
Prakash.S.Bagga

If we are doing things right, there will be an element of Dharam in them. That is, if we are doing an activity properly, if will have an element of Simran of Hari Naam in it.

prakash.s.bagga · #21 (**permalink**) 01-May-2012, 10:53 AM

BHAGAT SINGH Ji,
From Gurbanee we learn about RAJ YOG only.This RAJ YOG is thr real SAHAJ YOG which does not require any sort of excercies or physical postures of the body.

Regarding other 71 Dharams you can look for this in some book on Vedas.You must get to these.My knowledge about 72 types of Dharma in Veda is from a discourse once I was listening on TV.

Regarding Simran I have different views.I feel Simran can not be done but it is got Done
by the grace of SatiGuRu only.From Gurbanee we come to know that even Air,Water ,and Fire and all elements of the Universe are doing Simran.So this is the real character of Simran.Basically Simran is a 24 by 7 state of being in tune with Naamu.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hinduism/38401-baba-ramdev-praises-guru-gobind-singh.html
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38401

Prakash.S.Bagga

BhagatSingh · #22 (**permalink**) 01-May-2012, 13:48 PM

Prakash ji,
Gurbani's stress is on Bhagati Yoga. Now they just call it Bhagati. The practices involve doing kirtan of Hari's praises, simran of Naam, seva, bandana, etc. Cultivating love and fear of Hari, and developing a personal relationship with Him. As you know, the authors of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji are romantics.

They see themselves as lovers of their Husband Lord. As a whole this is called Bhagati Yoga.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38401

I am not sure which practices are involved in Sehaj Yoga. I always thought sehaj is what people obtained from doing yoga and sehaj was what kept them going. Some sehaj is required to get into any yoga practice.

Raj Yoga does not require asans but certainly asans are part of it.

Raja_Yoga

Where does Gurbani talk about Raj Yoga, other than in praise of Guru Sahibs? (Other than "Raj yoga takhat diyan Guru Ramdas")

prakash.s.bagga · #23 (**permalink**) 01-May-2012, 15:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BhagatSingh

Prakash ji,
Gurbani's stress is on Bhagati Yoga. Now they just call it Bhagati. The practices involve doing kirtan of Hari's praises, simran of Naam, seva, bandana, etc. Cultivating love and fear of Hari, and developing a personal relationship with Him. As you know, the authors of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji are romantics.

They see themselves as lovers of their Husband Lord. As a whole this is called Bhagati Yoga.

I am not sure which practices are involved in Sehaj Yoga. I always thought sehaj is what people obtained from doing yoga and sehaj was what kept them going. Some sehaj is required to get into any yoga practice.

Raj Yoga does not require asans but certainly asans are part of it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raja_Yoga
Where does Gurbani talk about Raj Yoga, other than in praise of Guru Sahibs? (Other than "Raj yoga takhat diyan Guru Ramdas")

What RAJ YOG Gurbanee refers does not require any Asan/asans or posture ,there is hardly any differentiation between RAJ Yog/Sahaj Yog.These may be taken as SYNONYM.

There is another quote refering to RAJ YOG as
ਰਾਜੁ ਜੋਗੁ ਮਾਣਿਓ ਬਸਿਓ ਨਿਰਵੈਰੁ ਰਿਦੰਤਰਿ ॥ ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਸਗਲ ਉਧਰੀ ਨਾਮਿ ਲੇ ਤਰਿਓ ਨਿਰੰਤਰਿ ॥ {ਪੰਨਾ 1390}

Prakash.s.Bagga