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There are those that have an agenda to dilute Sikh thinking that some find distasteful. How would a Hindu feel if they were constantly informed that Hinduism actually originated from Islam?

Well that is how I feel when I am told that Sikhism is just a wing of Hinduism, or the Martial aspect of Hinduism. I respect any religion and am happy to learn from everyone, but the sad fact of the matter is that there will always be those that try and bring more and more Hindu ritual into Sikhism, it is going on in many Gurudwaras across the world, and it is getting worse, the raw knowledge contained in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is not enough any more, it has to be presented with fun stuff and ritual and excitement, this is not Sikhi, this is the very thing Guru Nanak ji informed us would not assist us in our search for the truth.
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as has been explained many many times to you Kamalaji already, Hindu deities in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji are nothing more than reference points, however, if you believe that sort of thing, then that makes you a Sanatan Sikh and I have no problem with that at all, in fact, I support a lot of your posts in your lookout as Sanatan.

Satyabanji, I do not think the comment you have taken offence at was aimed at you, I have always found your posts to be fair and without any attempt at pushing Hindu concepts as being Sikh, I would hope you both stay as I feel you have much to contribute to this forum in the way of inter religious discourse



 
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Well they do exist and have made appearences, but I guess since the camera wasn't nvented that long ago to take a picture of the gods you still wouldn't beleive me and say it is photo shopped. Meh. I don't care anymore.
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Oh that's our Ambarsaria ji. Do not mind him. He certainly means well.
Veer Bhagat Singh ji it is not a stone I threw at Satyaban ji. I simply stated that at times and in certain topics of interest to Hinduism where Sikhism message is at odds that I see clusters of people show up (real time looking at who is online at the bottom of main page) in defense of Hinduism thoughts and muddying of Sikhism thoughts. If that is considered offensive by a peace loving Hindu, I have nothing to regret. Let others with their beliefs share and convince.
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Satyaban ji, It is your duty to guide people (if you have knowledge and wisdom) without attachment to the outcome. If you have something to share you must share without worrying about how it will be received, without investing in a future outcome. That is dharm, yes?
This is how un-moderated forum at spn works. If you cannot take the heat get out of the kitchen. I have posted much direct posts in rebuttals to many other Sikh brothers and sisters. Satyaban ji has no duty to guide if such duty is to turn everything Sikhi into Hinduism origin and continuation into Hinduism. That is misguidance.

So called "Om Shanti Om" member to suggest others of his faith to not participate or leave certainly does not vouch for as in "practice what you preach" for me. His desire to be called Qafir and recognized as such at a Muslim forum(s) is not the kind of respect I will be citing.

spn is bigger than me and the next member and so on, so on. I will defend Sikhism thoughts and Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji messages and their clarity with my pen as long as I live and participate wherever. If a Hindu, Sikh, Muslim, Buddhist, Atheist, etc., misleads I will respond as I choose.

By the way perhaps some people lose sight that this is a Sikh Philosophy Network which as parts of TOS requires people to not denigrate Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and Guru ji directly or indirectly. They should be expecting challenge sometimes weak and sometimes strong.

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Sikhs have absolutely no desire to offend or convince others that their way is the right way. Sikhism does not believe converting others, we have absolutely no desire to.

I think the real issue here that others do not like when we say "that is fine if you believe in it, however, Sikhs do not hold the same view".

Sikhs have always respected and defended people regardless of religion, cast, creed etc etc. There is much evidence and history to back this up. Sikhs want to peaceful practice their religion without interference from others. Is that too much to ask? Why is their so much effort to misguide, confuse, frustrate, insult Sikhs? Why? Why? Why? What have we done???? Its last resort for Sikhs to fight back and we will (without any fear, real Sikhs frighten death not fear it).
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