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Old 02-Mar-2011, 01:21 AM
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When I was younger and probably most of you would have been taught about things like Diwali at school, Ravan having 10 heads and just through reading you may have learnt about goddesses such as Durga with many arms, Hanuman in monkey form etc etc

Since Sikhism mentions all these gods and goddesses especially in Dasam Granth about goddess Durga, does that mean the gods/goddesses actually existed with ten heads, ten arms etc etc?

The reason I ask is that if I look at these things now from a Scientific point of view that to append 10 heads on a body or many arms is just not practical and may not work
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So does Sikhism say that these gods/goddesses in appearance were symbolic in nature or they actually did exist?

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badshah ji you are missing a big piece of understanding Sikhism puzzle.

Let me explain.

Our Gurus, teachings and Gurbani is related to real life people not Gods or God's messenger. The technique deployed in all teachings and Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is to not talk elitist. The people's understanding of concepts, beliefs, living styles were used as something to be recognized in developing Sikhism so that the "Andh Vishvas" (blind faith) into Brahminic, Islamic elements in particular could be exposed for what it was so that people could get spiritual freedom. In this process everything and anything was talked about but always keeping the end higher ideal in mind. So literals, devi devta names, devi devta descriptions need to be read in the global context in which the Sri Guru Grant Sahib ji and other writings were framed.

I think you come across to me as a Hindu at Heart who is using tools to create doubtful topics. Yes these elad to discussion but they also create false headlines. I find some of your comments like the following naive and insulting,
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Since Sikhism mentions all these gods and goddesses especially in Dasam Granth about goddess Durga, does that mean the gods/goddesses actually existed with ten heads, ten arms etc etc?
Take care and I hope I am wrong in the above.

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Re: Does Sikhism confirm the existence of Hindu gods/goddesses?

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Since Sikhism mentions all these gods and goddesses especially in Dasam Granth about goddess Durga, does that mean the gods/goddesses actually existed with ten heads, ten arms etc etc?
No I don't think it does but if you were to copy and paste the references you have come across, then there are several scholars here who could analyse the context and confirm this

As for the impracticality of the multi head thing, one way to interpret this quality is that said individual had the intellect of many men so depicted as having multiple heads....not that I believe in any of the gods/goddesses stuff....
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badshah ji you are missing a big piece of understanding Sikhism puzzle.

Let me explain.

Our Gurus, teachings and Gurbani is related to real life people not Gods or God's messenger. The technique deployed in all teachings and Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is to not talk elitist. The people's understanding of concepts, beliefs, living styles were used as something to be recognized in developing Sikhism so that the "Andh Vishvas" (blind faith) into Brahminic, Islamic elements in particular could be exposed for what it was so that people could get spiritual freedom. In this process everything and anything was talked about but always keeping the end higher ideal in mind. So literals, devi devta names, devi devta descriptions need to be read in the global context in which the Sri Guru Grant Sahib ji and other writings were framed.

I think you come across to me as a Hindu at Heart who is using tools to create doubtful topics. Yes these elad to discussion but they also create false headlines. I find some of your comments like the following naive and insulting,

Take care and I hope I am wrong in the above.

Sat Sri Akal.

I am not going to say that you are correct about me or you are wrong about me, but I do find it fascinating how you have come to your conclusion over the internet

I will leave it to your mind to conclude to what ever you want

Hold on, what do you mean insulting...... if Dasam Granth mention goddess Durga then that means she existed...... but with the many arms? Or was it just poetry regardless of whether the goddes actually existed to simply motivate troops to fight a good battle through the stroy of Durga
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Re: Does Sikhism confirm the existence of Hindu gods/goddesses?

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I am not going to say that you are correct about me or you are wrong about me, but I do find it fascinating how you have come to your conclusion over the internet

I will leave it to your mind to conclude to what ever you want
God gives us eyes to see (I read your threads), God gives us brain to connect the dots (I see the essence flowing through threads/posts by you).

Of course I can be wrong. Only you can correct though!

Take care.
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God gives us eyes to see (I read your threads), God gives us brain to connect the dots (I see the essence flowing through threads/posts by you).

Of course I can be wrong. Only you can correct though!

Take care.

You can have all the eyes, ears, noses and brains you want but it comes down to your processing power, not every one has the latest Pentium chip in their head

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Re: Does Sikhism confirm the existence of Hindu gods/goddesses?

Dear fellow SPN'ers

I can see a bit of personal ping pong developing here on more than one thread!

Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=34683

Ultimately, I am uncertain as to what can be achieved and would humbly suggest we stay on topic (if admins don't mind me stealing their thunder!)
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Let us enjoy some Durga spirituality in reference to the following in your post to go above baby talk (if Dasam Granth mention goddess Durga then that means she existed),
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Hold on, what do you mean insulting...... if Dasam Granth mention goddess Durga then that means she existed...... but with the many arms? Or was it just poetry regardless of whether the goddes actually existed to simply motivate troops to fight a good battle through the stroy of Durga
climax from the movie "DEVI DURGA SHAKTHI"


Badshah ji I watched the above video and mentioned it above so I must be believing in Durga too Eh!

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Let us enjoy some Durga spirituality in reference to the following in your post to go above baby talk (if Dasam Granth mention goddess Durga then that means she existed),


climax from the movie "DEVI DURGA SHAKTHI"

YouTube - climax from the movie "DEVI DURGA SHAKTHI"

Badshah ji I watched the above video and mentioned it above so I must be believing in Durga too Eh!

Cheers.
Believing in Durga and accepting that she existed (mentioned in Dasam Granth) are two different things, I never spoke of believing in Durga FYI!
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