Hindu Legends

ekmusafir_ajnabi · #**109** (**permalink**) 06-Jun-2008, 20:09 PM

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Originally Posted by randip singh

I cannot belive you are making uch nasty horrid statements?

I cannot belive your arrogance?

What gives you the right to insulst aad in such a way? Are you so perfect that you are without Ego? I could say from some of the views you have expressed maybe you are better suited to Hindu Vaishnavism rather than Sikhism.

Please watch what you are saying and your veiled character assasination.

I do not have time for your childlike tantrums. Add ji appears to have been making progress, I suggest you come out of your shell, learn and grow up too.

We have two Gurus whose background is Hindu Vaishnavism. So you might as well discount them and their Bani. There are Bhagats and their bani too. I wonder where you intend to stop.

I do not need not converse with you further on this issue.

ekmusafir_ajnabi · #**110** (**permalink**) 06-Jun-2008, 20:16 PM

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Originally Posted by randip singh

"We are born of woman, we are conceived in the womb of woman, we are engaged and married to woman.

We make friendship with woman and the lineage continued because of woman. When one woman dies, we take another one, we are bound with the world through woman.

We grow up stronger and wiser having drunk milk from the breast of woman.

Why should we talk ill of her, who gives birth to kings?

The woman is born from woman; there is none without her.

Only the One True Lord is without woman"

(Guru Nanak Dev, Var Asa, pg. 473)

Guru ji's message is right. There is nothing wrong with the woman. She is performing her duty.

One who is living a life in intoxication of Maya cannot be expected to think beyond the Horizon. We cannot think and understand beyond the parameters set by our Karmas.

Randip Singh · #**111** (**permalink**) 06-Jun-2008, 21:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ekmusafir_ajnabi

I do not have time for your childlike tantrums. Add ji appears to have been making progress, I suggest you come out of your shell, learn and grow up too.

We have two Gurus whose background is Hindu Vaishnavism. So you might as well discount them and their Bani. There are Bhagats and their bani too. I wonder where you intend to stop.

I do not need not converse with you further on this issue.

Pot calling kettle black?

Actually it is in your post you claim to be an authority on Sikhism, and this is no childish tantrum but a warning I will not tolerate ANY more of your veiled attacks on our members. In anycase who are you to make claims on who is making progress and who is not?

Back to topic.

Please tell us who the "Vaisnav" beliving Guru's were and cite actual historical evidence. Also tell us about the "Vaishnav Bhaghats"? While you are at it tell us about the non Vaishnav Bhaghats too!!

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One who is living a life in intoxication of Maya cannot be expected to think beyond the Horizon. We cannot think and understand beyond the parameters set by our Karmas.

Yes I often read the writings on web of such misfortunates, but they usually run when challenged. :p

Narayanjot Kaur · #**112** (**permalink**) 06-Jun-2008, 22:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ekmusafir_ajnabi

I do not have time for your childlike tantrums. Add ji appears to have been making progress, I suggest you come out of your shell, learn and grow up too.

Brother Ekmusafir ji

With great respect I say this: I am not making progress. Anything that happens happens according to His hukam and in His time with His grace. This you already know.

Fateh!

ekmusafir_ajnabi · #**113** (**permalink**) 06-Jun-2008, 22:11 PM

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One who is living a life in intoxication of Maya cannot be expected to think beyond the Horizon. We cannot think and understand beyond the parameters set by our Karmas.

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I do not need not converse with you further on this issue.

Nothing further to say to you. By the Wisdom of My Gurus.

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Brother Ekmusafir ji

With great respect I say this: I am not making progress. Anything that happens happens according to His hukam and in His time with His grace.

Fateh!

Modesty! Your statement is true.

Narayanjot Kaur · #**114** (**permalink**) 06-Jun-2008, 22:13 PM

It would be a good idea to go back to the crux of the thread -- transformations of meaning in Hindu legends.

Astroboy · #**115** (**permalink**) 06-Jun-2008, 23:29 PM

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The myths concerning Kali worship derive from at least three different sources. According to the Devimahatmya, she is a minor emanation from the angry third eye of the goddess during her battle with the demon hosts of Sumbha and Nisumbha. With her ling tongue, her role was to lick up every drop of blood of the demon general Raktavija, for otherwise each drop would produce countless clones. The Kalika Purana, on the other hand, describes her as Siva’s consort and so do several other Tantric texts.

This almost tells me that there were fiction-writers during that time and that Kali was never a factual history. The mind-set was different therefore perception followed a similar trend. But nature and universal laws never change. The forces of nature have always done what they are still doing today.

Narayanjot Kaur · #**116** (**permalink**) 06-Jun-2008, 23:37 PM

Actually NamJap ji

My entire perspective on Hindu mythology, devas and devetas, has altered dramatically as a result of this thread. This is not the first time I have experienced a transformation like this here on SPN and it stokes my interest to know more.

One thing that has happened -- I am beginning to see the human construct and practice of "sacrifice" as something more than appeasement of a god or gods. The fiction writing that you speak -- astute observation by you -- is more than storytelling. My view of that has also changed. It is more like a form of narrative therapy. An entire culture telling of its deepest fears in story, the way an individual tells his/her story to an psychoanalyst. Much of it may be untrue. Some of it may be a concoction. And all of it is meaningful.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hinduism/19776-hindu-legends.html
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19776

But I am glad for Guru Nanak -- he has liberated the world -- the world may not realize it.

Fateh jio, NamJap ji!