Question for All Who Question the Authenticity of the Sikh Faith

QUESTIONS FOR ALL THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN TRYING TO CONVINCE THE SIKHS TO BELIEVE THAT THEIR BELIEF IN 'DHAN “DHAN SIRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI” BEING THEIR LIVING GURU' IS SUBJECT TO BE CORRECTED.

A True Guru is a Guru because His Soul is Merged with The Higher Self.
For us(SIKHS) ALL OUR GURUS ARE TRUE GURUS.
For us(SIKHS) All our Eleven Gurus are LIVING.
For us(SIKHS) TRUTH never dies. It is not bound to time and space. ALL GURU SAHIBAAN AND ETERNAL LIVING JOTE IN THE FORM OF DHAN DHAN SIRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI
are everywhere, all the time, Adole, Apaar……
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Baani Prabh Ki Sabh ko Bolay, Aap Adole Na Kabhu Doley………

IF ME NEECH IS WRONG PLEASE CORRECT ME.


Now we all know this Truth that human body is limited to time and space so has to expire one day. So is Guru Ji’s. There is no Guru living in a physical body forever. CAN YOUR GURU'S PHYSICAL BODY LIVE FOREVER??????

And I hope we all agree on this point that Atma never dies. DO WE??????

So for us(SIKHS), all our Gurus are here; now; have not gone anywhere. ARE THEY GONE ANYWHERE????

For all those who have been beating the drum Living Guru, Living Guru; In a Human Body, In a Human Body; The Only Way, The Only Way-
Will your Guru be of NO USE TO YOU AFTER HE/SHE LEAVES HIS/HER HUMAN ABODE??????

Are his/her words(truth) those are coming out of his/her mouth now, will be useless after he/she leaves the physical body???????
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forgive me please







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I think this is completely correct.

No question about it !
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QUESTIONS FOR ALL THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN TRYING TO CONVINCE THE SIKHS TO BELIEVE THAT THEIR BELIEF IN 'DHAN “DHAN SIRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI” BEING THEIR LIVING GURU' IS SUBJECT TO BE CORRECTED.
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Surinder ji, Harjas ji, Salinder ji, and others

What is most troubling in the several threads that are alive right now? The background message that has been promoted by one or two people that goes like this. "If we understand ourselves, we will find that we are one with God, that we are like God, and that therefore we are God." Of courese, if anyone believes that, then they can give themselves permission to correct Siri Guru Granth Sahib ji! Whenever I read these statements, and they are not subtle suggestions, I want to say it is spiritually frightening. Let me be the slave of the slave who touches the feet of Nanak! It is a kinder, gentler place to be.

Respectfully

Oh, people, people!
All of you are so wrong!!!
Nobody is saying your faith is wrong.
We are only replying to the vast propoganda people of your domain are churning out against our belief.

Surinder Kaurji, in case you haven't noticed I have only EVER replied to attacks on my beliefs or contributed to debates which I agree with.
If you have the right to express your views and beliefs on Sikhi, so do other Sikhs of other viewpoints.
Don't put yourselves on a pedestial and say 'we' have a right, but you don't. That -when Namdhari Sikhs present their views they are agents of the RSS and other facist organisations out to destroy 'our' version of Sikhi!
I am not saying you say this, but there are those who do!

Nobody can destroy FAITH.

Namdhari Sikhs are not taught to attack anyones faith, even other Sikhs who disagree with us. We know a truth in history that gives us the strong faith we have. You have been presented with a truth that you believe. If both those truths give us our respected 'Faith' then therein lies our respective salvations.

But for one to accuse and attack another or to say "We are candidates for Heaven, Mukti, Jivan Mukti, and the 'others' are 'Narakdharis'." is a sin for both sides.

Let us debate as Gursikhs in search of truth. There is much to learn and cutting each others throats or beliefs is not the way forward.
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I have the patience and respect to listen to you. Can you extend the same courtesy to me?

Respected Sikh NaamDhari Ji,

if others have said anything 'not acceptable' to you, you have also said a lot to them 'not acceptable'.

i even remember you blaiming me(as i was the reason for that) for all that happened in your dera somewhere.

Please, all this i am asking, to end this useless fight, that is all. i am not saying what you believe is wrong, and certainly what others believe is also not wrong.

Now if we are called 'Sikhs' and are doing something we believe that Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Gobind Singh Ji ordered us to do-what is wrong in it. NOTHING.

And one last thing- if you claim yourself to be so NAAMDHARI- you must not be condemning other's faith and blaming them while you are arguing about it. you should only be defending yourself truthfully. and you instead have done a lot of condeming of shabad guru and all that.......

i am not doing this with any wrong purpose. i respect every one.

tell us good things about you, your faith, so that all can understand what you are, show the goodness.....

And Respected drkhalsa Ji even started a new thread for this purpose. Clear others doubts. Why aren't you doing that.

forgive me please

Surinder Kaur Bhenji

We seem to be going around in circles. I have NEVER blamed you for anything.|I don't have a 'Dera.'
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And least of all, I DO NOT WANT TO FIGHT WITH YOU.

You are my Sister. Brothers do not fight with their sisters. (Well at least in theory. Me and my blood sister have some fearsome rows !)
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Please stop hitting me (WAH!)

Naamdari ji

There are probably dozens of readers (not everyone who reads the forum posts or may even be registered) who would deeply appreciate and benefit from an opportunity to read what you have to say about Naamdari, its history and its beliefs. DrKhalsa started a thread for you which I have read. He has been very detailed and also invites you to be part of that dialog since you would have much more of interest to say. No one is happy when anger breaks out.

Respectfully.

I have already, at DrKhalsajis request, started the the thread under: 'Naam-Dhari is Sikhi'. All who wish to have dialogue (not fights ) about what Namdharis believe can talk with me there, so that we can stop jumping from forum to forum.