Vegetarian Consciousness and the Meditative Mind

harry haller · #37 (**permalink**) 01-May-2012, 21:04 PM

http://www.indianfoodforever.com/hol...ng-pakore.html

Bhaang Pakore Recipe

Bhaang pakore is a speciality dish eaten by the people during the festival of Holi. Bhaang pakora are a popular snack during holi festivities. Here is the recipe for bhang ke pakore.
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Ingredients:

250 gms Besan (gram flour)
200 gms Potatoes (aloo)
200 gms Cauliflower (gobhi)
150 gms Onions (pyaj)
100 gms Spinach (palak)
200 gms Brinjal (baigan)
10 gms Bhang (cannabis) seed powder
2 gms Soda-bicarb
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5 gms Ajwain (carom seeds)
5 gms Pomegranate seed powder (anardana)
Salt to taste
Oil for deep-frying

not so fast fatso....it is also eaten

BhagatSingh · #38 (**permalink**) 01-May-2012, 21:45 PM

Hahaha fatso... I wish

Yes bhang pakoras exist but I have only heard of the word "bhang" being used to refer to the drink. Either way the translation hardly changes.

Ambarsaria · #39 (**permalink**) 02-May-2012, 00:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BhagatSingh

Hahaha fatso... I wish

Yes bhang pakoras exist but I have only heard of the word "bhang" being used to refer to the drink. Either way the translation hardly changes.

Bhagat Singh ji on a visit to India, if you go, you should try (just kidding), I have not. My father once told me a tale how teachers under him did fancy things and showed great exuberance once they were fed these in a jovial trick. Many started doing Yoga, athletics, merriment, insistence laughing, etc.

Bhang is a great multiple use vegetable. I wonder if there is something similar in meat products!

Regards.

harry haller · #40 (**permalink**) 02-May-2012, 01:39 AM

absolutely Ambarsariaji , its 5 day old steak tartare thats been left out on a hot day

harry haller · #41 (**permalink**) 02-May-2012, 02:42 AM

Punjabiespadaji,

I have enough trouble keeping my mind free from agitation, focusing on my relationship with creation, and attempting to be a good Sikh, I just have not time to mull over concepts that the Guruji in his infinite wisdom has already guided me on.
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This applies equally to reincarnation, meditation, prayer, meat and a whole host of other issues I do not need to find the time to debate.

BhagatSingh · #42 (**permalink**) 02-May-2012, 06:56 AM

Harry ji,

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I have enough trouble keeping my mind free from agitation

It because you don't stop doing things. You contemplate all the time, seeking contemplation to figure out your life, your relationship and ideals. Instead try waiting for the contemplation to come to you. Whenever you want to begin contemplation, or if find you are in it, finish the line of thought, then stop and wait for the next thought like a lioness who waits for the antelope, in an ambush. She gets real low and alert and looks for the perfect opportunity to ambush it's prey. It waits patiently in the grass until the antelope gets close. When it does, it jumps out and chases after it.

Be a lioness.

Wait for the thought and then when it arrives, say it out loud. Continue to think out loud. Now a thought is like a whole herd of antelopes. A train of thought, is not even a herd, it is like that scene from the Lion king, with Simbah dangerously trapped on that mound. Massive waves of wildebeasts, like an ocean.

We want to catch an antelope. An antelope is more like a word. Each word of a thought is an antelope. Now when you speak, wait for the word to come to you, as you previously waited for thoughts to come to you. Instead of looking for words to think let them come to you. Kind of like Dhur ki bani, it came to Guru Nanak, he did not chase after it. Let words come to your mouth. dhur ki bani aayi... tin sagli chint mitaee.

Do not attempt this in public. Unless you happen to be in India amongst people doing Bhang.

PunjabiEspada ji,
OK I am ready to answer since I got a chance to observe it.
I eat it for the same reason I eat vegetables... actually, it's not a reason, there are no reasons here. I get hungry, I seek tasty food, I eat. Nowhere during that process do I begin to have reasons. Nowhere do I begin to differentiate between meat and vegetables. It's all food to me. I eat whatever available. I do not consider the individual spices, herbs, chemicals, preservatives in it either when I eat. I just enjoy the sensory whoopie it gives me on my taste buds and move on.

Now later on I do make up reasons to post on SPN. That I was created to eat food. The purpose of my life is to eat, as ordained by God. If I don't, the divine purpose will not be fulfilled. If the divine purpose is not fulfilled, the universe will come to a halt. The divine purpose must keep operating and the moment it is stops means the end of the world. Thus to keep the entire universe running, I eat.

But going back to the actual experience, there are no reasons there. There is no "why". There is simply the being and doing (getting hungry and eating food).

Luckysingh · #43 (**permalink**) 02-May-2012, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PunjabiEspada

so...maybe no one read it but I'll ask again

why do you guys eat meat? [directed at meat eaters again]

just wondering

I think most of the meat eaters here in the west eat it as it is cheap enough!!!!.
At one time in the west, you used to have to pay much extra for meat dishes. But nowadays, the veggie food or dishes in a diner/restaurant are ridiculously priced as high as any meat dishes!!!
So, it's not a difficult choice for one that doesn't mind veggie or non-veggie is it??
I mean pizzas, wether veggie or meat are all priced the same. So the customer, in terms of getting satisfaction and value for money is going to opt for the 12 inch meat lovers delight instead of veg/cheese.-you bet!!

You would also not be surprised that here in Vancouver there are many many punjabi pizza places. Most of them do the tasty tandoori and other indian pizzas.
But folks, I've heard that you can even get servings by the slice, I assume, of indian 'bhang' pizzas!!!!- That beats the pakoras, I say.!!!!

Strangely enough, I actually heard this from some white folk who enjoy the indian pizzas compared to dominoes!!!- (a gora informs you what the punjabi services can provide!-.....crazy.....!!)

PunjabiEspada · #44 (**permalink**) 02-May-2012, 11:40 AM

if you're agitated, kay, but yo there is really no reason to worry about creation; whatever happened, happened and no one will ever know how the universe was created and there is no theory that comes even close to finding out how. I do not seek heated debate; I only seek to inform
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and taste, I figured, got it

oh and most veggie items are actually cheaper ie. Freebirds vegetarian burritos and subway's veggie delite subs [both amazingly delicious]

anyways you do know that in order for people to achieve that taste, innocent animals nowadays are subjected to horrific conditions in factories and killed horribly

not to sound like a pretentious you-know-what; but when I ate meat, I at least wanted to know the truth and not blindly be ignorant; since realization of truth is above all else, and higher still is truthful living

this video really shows what goes on

all I'm saying is, is taste really worth the mass pain and suffering on this scale of animals?

Gyani Jarnail Singh · #45 (**permalink**) 02-May-2012, 19:13 PM

Punjabiespada Ji,

Whats your take on the Sugar cane shabad...??? why sugar cane and not a squealing pig as shown in the video ?? Can ONLY Guru nanak ji "hear" the crying sugar cane...( on our Human Plane..Dogs can hear sounds a human ear cant pick up and thats a Fact not KNOWN until very recently....so just becasue we cannot hear the carrot screaming..doesnt meant it is happy to be slaughtered...Gurbanee says..JEEAN ka AHAAR JEEA..Life feeds LIFE. Period........and REMEMBER a HUMAN SCREAMS the LOUDEST under torture..being killed...under suffering....Aitee maar payee KURLANNEH is being done by HUMANS...