Humans As Meat-Eaters: Some Perspectives from Science

vegangoth ji

Don't get too worried up front. Truly depending on the gurdwara and the food planned for the day there may be only a little bit of dairy. You are probably going to see roti, an Indian style mixed salad, 2 or 3 choices of dal's (made with lentils, definitely something with channa or chick peas). It wil be simple fare according to the thinking of Guru Amar Das. You will also be served each choice individually where you are sitting. You can refuse anything -- you don't have to eat everything that is offered. You can refuse seconds too.
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Thanks for that, I feel less worried now and I'm sure I'm not the only vegan that has crossed their door

If you are offered what looks like ribbons of fried dough -- DON'T TURN IT DOWN!

What an interesting thread. I drink about three gallons of milk each week and see nothing wrong with it and the cows are pretty cool about it. They wander around, eat grass and appear to give of themselves quite unselfishly. Problems can arise when they are not miked on time no they don't like that at all. Cows are good and milk is good it is hardly liquefied meat and most importantly no one kills the cow to get the milk which for me makes all the difference. Butter is good and ghee is better. BTW I don't have a problem with vegetarian fed free range eggs
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I think the hunting angle did alter our evolution and predated farming and domestication of animals. However we can grow the proper foods to have a good nutritious diet without eating meat. Here is the kicker the planet is not going to be able to support all of us and all of the cattle it would take to feed everyone. They eat too much, drink too much water, and their flatulence damages the air we breath. Eat em no sir, stop their procreation and let them die of old age, maybe have some in a zoo or side shows I don't know.

Peace
Satyaban

We see that sort of torture happen in India...
no thanks!

[quote=Satyaban;106911]What an interesting thread. I drink about three gallons of milk each week and see nothing wrong with it and the cows are pretty cool about it. They wander around, eat grass and appear to give of themselves quite unselfishly. Problems can arise when they are not miked on time no they don't like that at all. Cows are good and milk is good it is hardly liquefied meat and most importantly no one kills the cow to get the milk which for me makes all the difference. Butter is good and ghee is better. BTW I don't have a problem with vegetarian fed free range eggs

oooooh! I can challange you on everything you have just written. Are you up for the challang?
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I think the hunting angle did alter our evolution and predated farming and domestication of animals. However we can grow the proper foods to have a good nutritious diet without eating meat. Here is the kicker the planet is not going to be able to support all of us and all of the cattle it would take to feed everyone. They eat too much, drink too much water, and their flatulence damages the air we breath. Eat em no sir, stop their procreation and let them die of old age, maybe have some in a zoo or side shows I don't know.
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Yup I agree but no zoo's there evil.]

Sorry Satyaban ji but it is not the cows that eat to much, drink to much nor is flatulence destroying the air we breath, it is us humans who are the ones eating/ drinking to much and it is us that are destroying the earth. As for the reason to keep them and to drink their milk or eat their meat take a look at the B V (biological value) of the protein they provide. Beef has a BV of 83 and milk has a BV of 78, now the highest scoring veggie BV is soya milk which scores 73. Whole Egg scores 100. BV is the ratio of amino acids as required for the human body. Soya milk while it contains all the essential amino acids doesn't contain them in the right quantities/ ratio and therefore leaves the body short of certain essential amino's and these are the ones that we require to make all the other amino acids. And for the Vegans who think milk is bad look at the first meal you ever had. Milk is life giving without it no baby would get past day one,
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Tony

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Originally Posted by Satyaban What an interesting thread. I drink about three gallons of milk each week and see nothing wrong with it and the cows are pretty cool about it. They wander around, eat grass and appear to give of themselves quite unselfishly. Problems can arise when they are not miked on time no they don't like that at all. Cows are good and milk is good it is hardly liquefied meat and most importantly no one kills the cow to get the milk which for me makes all the difference. Butter is good and ghee is better. BTW I don't have a problem with vegetarian fed free range eggs

No offence Satyaban but you need to learn some basic biology. The milk the cow produces is for its calf, but the calf is taken away.

You need to read on the biological process of how milk is produced:

http://foodallergens.ifr.ac.uk/food.lasso?selected_food=5000#summary

The blood proteins present in cow’s milk are also present in meat (beef).

http://www.milk.org/corporate/view.aspx?content=Faq/DairyCattle

In the cow's udder, small sacs, called alveoli, produce milk. The alveoli take the nutrients from the blood and add fat, protein and lactose (a type of sugar) to produce milk.





The hunter gatherer lifestyle is by far the greenest.

I don’t buy into that report written by a Vegetarian, Hindu Economist who works for the UN, that cites vegetarianism as away of saving the planet. It’s a nonsense, and his points have been rebutted. Yes we need to eat less in the west per se, but otherwise his report is biased.

Overcomsumption is the problem. You are correct.