Sikh Illuminati

bopadum · #1 (**permalink**) 09-Jun-2006, 21:09 PM

With all this Da Vinci code madness going on I have been getting back into the David Icke stuff. Anyway...

I found some footage on YouTube that suggested The Golden Temple was part of the Illumanati. It was showing Illumnati patterns and linking them to the path way of the Golden temple (in Particular the round patterns in the doorway-does anyone have a picture of this?).
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hard-talk/8904-sikh-illuminati.html

In my years I have also come across a South African Sharman called Credo Mutwa (what we probably call a desi doctor) who studies such things as the illumanati and he said sikhs (he was refering to Nihangs) wear the turban to represent the superior race on this planet. I cannot go into what this means here as it is a long story (so I suggest some reading). But basically the Eygiptians used to wear a ceratin style of head dress (similar to Nihangs) that represented they were the illuminated ones/people of the sun, to make the heads taller as they thought this is what the illumanated ones look like.

Rastafarians apparently do this for the same reason.

Then Icke himself says that the Symbol of the Illumanati is the Lions head representing the Sun as the illuminated ones.

Singh Meaning Lion - again Rastafarians do this too. Remember Rastafari is African/Ethiopian so close connections to Eygpt.

Then I started thinking of 5 (panj) as this is a sacred number to the illumanati. The Five Rivers of Punjab (punjab meaning five rivers), the five Ks, The Five beloved ones. Is there more? So why 5 in Sikhism and not six beloved ones, 7 ks etc?

Now I know both Credo and Icke are seen as crazy crack heads. So I was just wondering what other people made of all this....

One thing I did from this experience is I could Empathise with Christians and how they must feel with all this Da Vinci Hoo Haa as my reactions were of defense/offended/unsettling/upsetting, so

My Wife said to me the she always saw Sikhs as the superior aryan race (and there are science reasons that could support this, survival of the fittest and all that)-but then she has to say that, she is married to me!

Anoop · #2 (**permalink**) 10-Jun-2006, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bopadum

With all this Da Vinci code madness going on I have been getting back into the David Icke stuff. Anyway...

I found some footage on YouTube that suggested The Golden Temple was part of the Illumanati. It was showing Illumnati patterns and linking them to the path way of the Golden temple (in Particular the round patterns in the doorway-does anyone have a picture of this?).

In my years I have also come across a South African Sharman called Credo Mutwa (what we probably call a desi doctor) who studies such things as the illumanati and he said sikhs (he was refering to Nihangs) wear the turban to represent the superior race on this planet. I cannot go into what this means here as it is a long story (so I suggest some reading). But basically the Eygiptians used to wear a ceratin style of head dress (similar to Nihangs) that represented they were the illuminated ones/people of the sun, to make the heads taller as they thought this is what the illumanated ones look like.

Rastafarians apparently do this for the same reason.

Then Icke himself says that the Symbol of the Illumanati is the Lions head representing the Sun as the illuminated ones.

Singh Meaning Lion - again Rastafarians do this too. Remember Rastafari is African/Ethiopian so close connections to Eygpt.

Then I started thinking of 5 (panj) as this is a sacred number to the illumanati. The Five Rivers of Punjab (punjab meaning five rivers), the five Ks, The Five beloved ones. Is there more? So why 5 in Sikhism and not six beloved ones, 7 ks etc?

Now I know both Credo and Icke are seen as crazy crack heads. So I was just wondering what other people made of all this....

One thing I did from this experience is I could Empathise with Christians and how they must feel with all this Da Vinci Hoo Haa as my reactions were of defense/offended/unsettling/upsetting, so

My Wife said to me the she always saw Sikhs as the superior aryan race (and there are science reasons that could support this, survival of the fittest and all that)-but then she has to say that, she is married to me!

If this whole thing is true...

then ima go crazzzyyy....

sikhs are from the illuminati scheme...this is all baqwass... illuminati is illuminati call it whatever...sikhism is from god....the thing that controls everything....it doesnt matter...but still very interesting to hear about this!!

I sweat the illuminati are free masons?

vijaydeep Singh · #3 (**permalink**) 10-Jun-2006, 21:38 PM

Gurfateh

nihung means Corcodile in Farsi and they are converts from Shia Nihungs,who took sheltor of Guru from Aurangzeeb,who was vert bigot.

Turban has nothing to do with surproity as often some Nihungs remove Turban and bvecome Udasi monks.Turban has more to do with confort to take care of uncut hairs and nothing more.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8904
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8904

Then abour Aryan race,Aryanis not a race but it a title givne to civilsed person.

Anoop · #4 (**permalink**) 11-Jun-2006, 03:39 AM

I think illuminati is all conspiracy, and they existed because of the super powers of the soviet union,

, i dont really know, plus i heard they called free masons or something

ISDhillon · #5 (**permalink**) 11-Jun-2006, 15:38 PM

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nihung means Corcodile in Farsi and they are converts from Shia Nihungs,who took sheltor of Guru from Aurangzeeb,who was vert bigot

I heard a story about Baba Fateh Singh Ji tying a large dumalla so he could play with his elder brothers and then thats how they came into existence I never heard the story about shia converts do you have any references?

bopadum · #6 (**permalink**) 11-Jun-2006, 18:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ISDhillon

I heard a story about Baba Fateh Singh Ji tying a large dumalla so he could play with his elder brothers and then thats how they came into existence I never heard the story about shia converts do you have any references?

Same here. I have never heard of this Nihang/shia converts thing.

And I always thought the Nihang Pug was the bigger the braver. If you could fight a Lion/Elephant etc you had the honour of wearing a bigger Pug and you could decorate it more...

vijaydeep Singh · #7 (**permalink**) 11-Jun-2006, 22:06 PM

Gurfateh

Well in Moghul Army we had Nihungs,which was bacialy as Shia suicide squad coming in with Humayun,who converted to shia faith to get help from Shah Tahmasp,to regain India from Suri Pathans.

It reamined with Moghuls till bigot Sunni Aurnagzeb started to tourcher,Shias,Sufis,Bohara(he was not Anti Hindu or Sikh only but anti to other Muslim sects).

There after we do not have any record of Nihungs with Moghuls but they apear in Singhs.We so far have not concrete proof about Hindu back ground of First Nihung Bhai Maha Singh.Same Maha Singh did adminsted Amrit to Bhai Ajmer Singh.who before conversion was know as Peer Ibrahim Shah or Bahimi.

Das deduced this ting from book on Sikhs by Khushwant Singh(two volumes) and interaction with Baba Nidder Singh Ji of UK Buddhadal of www.sarbloh.info .He reitreated about Nihung Lashkar in Shias.

In fact Half Moon in Turban,and our Nishan Sahib looking more like Allah on flag of Iran or Shia gives more proximity.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8904

But as we are both Hindu and Muslim,So Half moon also gives us link to moon of Chandra Mauli Lord Shiva and as Sikh we are called Shiv Swaroop also and Nishan Sahib is Asi Ketu(Sabre onj Flag)wihc is more as Chakra of Vishnu and Trishul of Shiva.

Brother Dillon,Das is not proogationg culture vulture concept but wants to convey that we are the real inheter of Dharam and all Muslims and Hindus should join our faith to be true Muslim or Hindu.And das will recomned you all to read Dasham Granth Sahib also for that.

ISDhillon · #8 (**permalink**) 11-Jun-2006, 22:52 PM

So what about the story of Baba Fateh Singh Ji is that made up? cos i was told thats where it came from.

bopadum · #9 (**permalink**) 12-Jun-2006, 01:42 AM

This going off the subject as its supposed to be about illumanati references in Sikhism, but which authors/books/references are you getting this information from?