Cigarettes without Tobbaco and Beer without Alchohal

Gurfateh

Das saw something like cigrattes without tobbaco, Beers without Alchohal ie fruit beer. Say Pan Maasla was there without tobbaco.

In such case what should be policy of Sikh?

Should such stuff with which we may have addiction needs to be avoided? Or should the title 'not good for health' or 'injurious to health' be guiding us?
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ssa veerji
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i think Guru ji taught us that our Body is a gift from almighty...this life is precious.
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so we must avoid all harmful toxic and addictive things which spoil our health and makes our mind weak.

this would include : alcohol in excess, tobacco and other know addictions
meat ( my personal opinion)

I could not resist smiling when I read "Alcohol (if not in excess)". See, how easily we change the Guru's shabad to suit our selves.

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Going back to the original post about cigerettes without tobacco or beer without alcohol....I do not know...but it is still very hard to visualize a 5K sikh with flowing beard and a dastaar and kirpan smoking a cigerette (even if it does not have tobbacco).

There is a saying in Hindi..."bad se badnaam bura". Those who understand hindi will get the hint...

i don't think there is anything wrong in drinking non alcholic drinks like fruit beer.as far as smoking is concerned smoking has no purpose so why to smoke

baljeet veerji,

Can you quote references for me that how i have twisted the teachings in Guru Granth Sahib to suit myself?
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thanks

I know some old grandfathers in Punjab used to do Hooka/Hasheesh, now I am no expert but from what I understand is that it is not addictive and bad for your health-its just fruit flavoured, hence why they used to do it. But on the other hand it was frowned upon by the village.
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Again as someone mentioned earlier - people twist rules to fit themselves. As if hasheesh is just fruit flavoured and not a bad addictive (as there are good addictions), why do it?
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I have smoked in the past and I just didn't feel right doing it, something in built within us. So quit pretty quickly. Plus when your young you do silly things!

hi Bopadum veerji

Hashish is one of the most addictive drugs.

regards,

Dear AmarSangehra ji - Please refer Page 554, Slok M: 3, strating with the words "Maanus Bhariaa aaniaa....". Read this shabad completely. This shabad syas clearly that by drinking wine, persons intelligence departs and madness enters mind and man can not distinguish between his own and others..
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Now, I can not find anywhere in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji that drinking little bit is ok Can you please refer me to anywhere in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji which says drinking if not in excess is ok.
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Thanks