The Search for Statehood

hello dear

knowing about sikh and punjabis is hard!
If you where the krukshetra is you would easily get where the kaurav and panduv belongs to. If the field is in haryana and hestenpur in Delhi then the Panduv must gather their force in punjab&sind area not in Arunachal Pradesh where you hardly found no. 5 being practice and it is there from the time of Mahabharata till Khalsa. the srover is the one where Panduvs are not allowed to drink water and about sikh iits nothing but a reliogion practice on nature. stay natural live with todays fashion but being strict with the religion is wrong. the first guru never fight with anyone and the last guru resemles like a great warrior so it the matter of the time. many god com and goes but people still have to live with the nature. the first guru went to mecca for huj but now a days its impossible to go for huj for a hisdu or sikh so its a matter of time and all this is only because of being strict(baptist) in brown skin.
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Bulleshah,
You also claim that Sikhism is prt of the Bhakti Movement, but you see, that's the illusion. You fail to see the systematic and stern approach of Sikhism compared to the unorganised methods of the Bhakti saints. So what if it were all a coincidence? A nation has to wake up one day. You see, that's why Kabir ji is not a Guru in Sikhism, cause he was a passive spiritualist ( the very same reasons why Guru Nanak Dev Ji's eldest son was not made the successor, cause he chose the path of a recluse.) That's why only Kabir's ideology which coincided with Sikh principles were taken, and not him as the Guru, but his "Word" - the Shabd.
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Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8815
This is a difference between Hinduism and Sikhism, Hinduism may also have all the wisdom, but it still embraces renunciation, but Sikhism simply cannot embrace renunciation (& other Hinduistic practices), else the purity of its message would be as corrupted and contaminated as the plight of Hinduism today.
[The point that you brought up about Sikhs bowing to the jutti or jug of the Guru, simply goes to show how much of a Hinduistic influence has come into Sikhism, despite the stern step of identity & distinction taken by the Guru to maintain the purity (the Khalsa) of their message. Does this mean Sikhs hate Hindus? No! relax..]
Just a thought,
(no offence intended)
Lion King

Gurfateh

1. Sikhs and Punjabis are tow differnt Things.Das is not Punjabi but Sikh.
2. coming to Pandavas and Kauravas thing.Both belong to Hastinapur(it is not in Delhi but 24 KM East of Meerut and from here our Second Piara Bhai Dharam Singh belonged.He was Dharam Singh after baptism and and not Dharmchand Jaiwand as after Singh only caste or Gotra left is Singh.

3.Pandvas lived in Indrparshthas and Five villages were thier Panipat,Sonipat,Inderpat,Baghpat and Tilpat and sixth was Gurugram ie Gurgaon.

They fought in Kurukshetra,Even people from Gujrat,Mahrasthra and Bihar and bengal came,Manipuris and Malyalies may calim thier representations.If Shlva came then he was from Faras and not at all Indian or Hindu.
4. Coming to five we have Five Namajs in Muslims also.then we have Ten more in us and same as in Chrsitain ie Daswanth which is called Tenthy in church.

5.As per semtic faiths Sikhs did cahnge the nature like Lakhi Jungle is clear,and Malwa desert is fretile.First Guru was expert in Martial Arts and started to unit us and to fight the foe.Next Guru strated regimentaion in Gurudwara Malthan(place of wrestiling).Guruship is in word and that is eternal and is in nature.We who have that word(Sabad) inour God enjoy the status of Body of Guru ie Guru Panth.
6. comiung to mecca,hindus were never allowed in but Muslims and alhie Kitab were,this is porrf that Guru was more nerer to Muslims.sipleed Sikhs have thier place in Mecca itslef.(das was told by Haji kuershi about that where he fered his freind Salleh for that,only thing das differed with him that he saiod Guru made Mecca moved while das told him that Guru only qouted Holy Kuran,where it was writtan that God is in all direction ,So no need to bow to stone.

anyway in future we may make a Gurudwara in mecca Also perhaps in the memoray of Rasool Akaram Sal Al Lahe Sale Wa Wasallam,Made may name it Ahmadgarh Sahib as Rasool came for mankind and not only for Muslim and our right is there to huonour the same great man.

6.Laslty as you have come with us,you will find that beaerd and turban naturaly cover skin and if uncut hairs are there then there is no one who is black,yellow,white or brown.As god is colurless so Sikhs hate colour discrimnations.But yest in some Hindu temples till date even non brown hindu convert is not allowed to enter.and even lower caste brwon also are not let in.

Gurfateh

Das is surprised to se one thing by bro Bulleshah that Sant Ji were killed by His Army.
Does he know that who trained hs men? and what did Army said about his men?if there are 10000 of such with us we will regain the Aksai chin from China,which Nehru and idiot Kaul lost.
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and logic about Tenth Master being from Patna,say Jesus was bron in Israel,which is jew state so there could not be Christain state at all.

Hindus did loose thier last state called Nepal recently.We may get our state starting from India itself.Which bulleshah,who wants us to be libral and tolrant,will not tolrate nor give us liberty to preach.
But is from 1.4% of hindu and majority of Hindus are aware that what is good for thier race and regeon.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8815

Anyone can easyly be proud of ushc great nation or race but as wealthy is told to renouce proud of welth in gurmat so does Hindu need to renouce proude of nation and race.As wealth is surrnedeed to God so race and nations has to surrenreded to God.God will take care of all.