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Sorry a question. How do I start a a new thread? Can't seem to find it anywhere.

I had a question re: Hindu-Sikh marriages? From what I understand, Zaat mentioned in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji encompasses everything: caste, religion, race, ethnicity.

I am a sikh of devout sikh parents in love with a Hindu man. I completely believe in the sikh philosophy and go to the gurudwara on a regular basis. I recite the path and meditate as well. But in no way haave I ever said to myself: I will only marry a Sikh.

Please tell me how to post a thread. I need advice on how to convince my father that marrying a Hindu is acceptable in Sikhism.
BUT you should forever say to yourself..I WILL ALWAYS REMAIN A SIKH !!
In marriage..its always the norm that the WOMAN will follow the religion of the MAN....and IF you do THAT....then all this is just academic as it had nothing to do with Sikhism/Hinduism at all. The BETTER thing would be IF you got your husband to become a SIKH !! and raise all your children as SIKHS.




 
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Im not a sikh, but my husbond is. so he is married out of Jaat/Zaat and religion.
We respect each others background whatever it is race, religion or values.
I cant understand why someone wouldŽnt get married just becauce they have a differnt caste, race or religion. . we are all people with the same color blood in our bodies. . Should it not be enough.
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ssa,
i know my suggestion may not be right in all scenarios,but it holds very true in an india scenerio.What u r sayin is probably right too.But in india its a different picture.Here majority of ppl especially in north india know quite a lot abt sikhism and they appreciate it too.but media and certain organisations have demonised sikh appearance to such an extent that in general ppl dont like it.and i have hardly seen in my life any sikh girl here in india ,after getting married to a non sikh ,being effective in enlightening her in laws family to sikhism and attracting them to sikh faith.infact most of them themselve renounce there religion after getting married out of religion.there kids are never sikh or token sikhs at best.
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Sat Sri Akal.

Im not a sikh, but my husbond is. so he is married out of Jaat/Zaat and religion.
We respect each others background whatever it is race, religion or values.
I cant understand why someone wouldŽnt get married just becauce they have a differnt caste, race or religion. . we are all people with the same color blood in our bodies. . Should it not be enough.
ssa,
yeah i fully agree with u goridk ji.infact even i would like the world to be like this where everyone is treated at par.but in reality there are very few ppl in this world with your depth of thinking.sikh guys because of there unique appearance are often subject to racist discrimination.that is what concerns me. and what infuriates me most is this racist group includes lots of sikh girls also.I can somewhat link with those ppl who are not used to sikh type of appearnace.but what abt these sikh gals.they see there parents and brothers with these looks all through there life.how can they not like this appearance?
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ssa,
i know my suggestion may not be right in all scenarios,but it holds very true in an india scenerio.What u r sayin is probably right too.But in india its a different picture.Here majority of ppl especially in north india know quite a lot abt sikhism and they appreciate it too.but media and certain organisations have demonised sikh appearance to such an extent that in general ppl dont like it.and i have hardly seen in my life any sikh girl here in india ,after getting married to a non sikh ,being effective in enlightening her in laws family to sikhism and attracting them to sikh faith.infact most of them themselve renounce there religion after getting married out of religion.there kids are never sikh or token sikhs at best.
Your views are quite practical most upto the marks
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5 days I broke up with my humble & truthful persian girlfriend of 2 years. We loved each other dearly and shared many values. She was respectful and open to Sikh beliefs and told me she would be more than content raising children with Sikh values. Unfortunately her mother was not supportive of our relationship with the fear of cultural differences playing a destructive factor in the long term. She blatantly stated that she trusts in her daughters choice in a partner but fears the Sikh community because of our reputation. Instead of putting up my defenses, I decided to try to perceive through her shoes and began to realize what her fears were. I tried to explain to her that we are all children of the universe and that Sikhism is preaches equality amongst all beings. She called me naive. We gave it some time and tried to let it sink, but her mother would not be open to the idea of trying to get to know me. When I introduced my girlfriend to my parents, they were open to meet her with the expected reservations. My father advised me against marrying her since our relationship did not have the support of her parents. My only choice was to leave her. I did not want to carry the burden of the straining relationship between her and her mother. Basically, I gave up. Reason being; I began to realize that our purpose for being human is not to get deeply involved in worldly attachments, but to be selfless and compassionate beings on our journey back to the Divine Waheguru. So in this case, I simply counted the number of people I would hurt if I decided to continue with this relationship, and subtracted it by the number of people who would benefit. The truth will always remain the truth, all beings are but one, But in the case where someones perspective is just not cool with that- what can you really do about it?
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This is a sad tale Amrit ji.

You ask what can we really do about it?

We are not here to live a life filled with sadness and struggle (Unless of course that is what God wills for us) and you really do have the right to be happy as you live.

Personaly my friend I would have simply ignored the wishes of both sets of parents. I asked a while back, and I guess I'll ask it agian now.

I can understand respect for the parents, and I can understand takeing note of the parents wishes in the living of your own life, but at what stage of life (or how old if you like) do you start to live for your self?
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Also it may seem admirable to look at life and see how your choices may effect others, indeed I have said before that we should all do this, yet you simply cannot hold yourself responisble for the hurt that others may feel by your lifes choices. In essance by doing that you attempt to remove the choices of others. The biggest moral no no in my book.
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