How Many Sikhs Have Married Out Of Caste/Race?

Gagan8877 · #19 (**permalink**) 24-Apr-2006, 07:11 AM

I completely agree with Orange_Slice. Whoever says that "marrying someone outside the same caste, religion, etc is not correct" - does not understand the meaning of sikhism and is a big hypocrite. Because of such people there is no equality in this world. Sikhism is the path to reach divinity and spirituality. We as sikhs should not repeat what the pakhandi pandits did to in the past. They were the ones to give all these castes and supersitions that are still a part of the society. I understand that people want there children to be following sikhism, but if there is peace and love in your home and there is respect for elders and understanding between each family member, I think your children will surely be true sikhs - they will give happiness to the whole world. But if you yourself are always busy at work, running after money and your born sikh and rich wife is watching "Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam" on TV everyday and even if u children wear turbans the environment at home will not let them become true sikhs. Its easy to read Guru Granth Sahib but very difficult to follow whatever is written in there. The true sikh will follow and not be a victim of hypocrisy. Thats the big difference. No offence - thats my opinion.

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Originally Posted by orange_slice

We sound like hypocrites if we use caste as a matrimonial decision. Guru Gobind Singh baptized three untouchables without caring about their caste, and then we tell other people that the Gurus got rid of the caste system. What kind of integrity do we have if after this we still consider caste as a matrimonial decision? I urge everyone to think about this and realize that there is no caste...a Sikh is a Sikh. Imagine what the Gurus would think if they saw how many of their followers put so much emphasis on caste.

satnamsb · #20 (**permalink**) 24-Apr-2006, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by gurunanakslad

my answer is No. its because if i will marry some one out of caste then it will create many problems regarding religions coz i will want my child to follow sikhism and his mother will want child to follow her religion and child will get confused and reach nowhere... he will have very different point of view??... he will b in trouble everytime...

Moreover when there will be any function , again religions will come between so its better to marry in ur same caste....

I reallr respect all religions but its just i don't want to have any problem regarding religions.

Re: How Many Siks Have Married out Of Jaat/Zaat (Caste/Race)

i agreed with gurunanakslad

sskohli · #21 (**permalink**) 24-Apr-2006, 10:10 AM

Sat Sri Akal All,
I think love like religion is a very personal matter and I don't think in today's soceity where you interact and work with ppl from all caste/religion etc. It is very difficult to envelope yourself with caste/religion.
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I think if you like some person, that is it, period. I don't think when you are in love, you even think about caste or religion, if you do, how can that be love?

sandeep

jonnyBravoWarm · #22 (**permalink**) 24-Apr-2006, 11:42 AM

Sat Sri AKAL

I am still un-married, but when i marry, i would marry a sikh girl.
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The point here is, marriage is a complex constitution where the girl and the boy , from different backgrounds come together and start a family. There are already a lot of obstacles to resolve and definately a lot of compromises to make; why increase the complexity.
What everyone has said about love and self realisation is absolutely correct, but i would rather not take the risk.

vijaydeep Singh · #23 (**permalink**) 24-Apr-2006, 12:47 PM

Gurfateh

Das is unmarried but his Father and mother ,whoare Hindu,are from differnat caste.Likewsie two out of his three elder brothers also have married outside caste.Even one Brother mariied Russian Lady.
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So in educated Hindus also caste is not bar.

soulfullofmusic · #24 (**permalink**) 24-Apr-2006, 13:08 PM

I don't know how many times we will call us JATT or somthing else..
May be first we need to know who we are and what is our religion. Human is our first religion and then next.
HUMAN make this religion not God. And God is one, so why u people giving the populairty of this Idiot questions that did someone marry to other cast etc or not ...
thats why we are back ... ...
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see inside your heart...
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take care,....

Jaszwant · #25 (**permalink**) 24-Apr-2006, 13:36 PM

I married my wife who is half Punjabi (different jaat-supposed to be the lowest) and half Chinese while I am a Jat.
Most Sikhs I have known or even relatives tend to make an issue out of it but to me humans are all equal in the eyes of God. The only defferences I tend to look at are differences in opinion (than again each person has his or her own and is their right), in choice etc, nothing to do with race or religion or caste or creed.
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That is the way of the Sikh.

d4rmy · #26 (**permalink**) 24-Apr-2006, 14:57 PM

I do not think Caste should be taken so seriously but there still seems to be a lot of stigma, when cousins or family marry out of caste as sikhs we should rise above this and promote love respect for each other.

Jasbir · #27 (**permalink**) 24-Apr-2006, 16:18 PM

I am married to a girl of my own cast. It was not a concious decision to do so. Someone recomended a match and it seemed suitable and therefore we got married. My family did not insist or actively look for someone of our own cast. However the persons who recomend such matches do so to the parties of the same cast hence the question does not arise. Therfore it could be said that caste selection does occur but with subtlty!
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I don't know what would have happened if the recomender had suggested someone of a different cast. In may case if the person was suitable it would not have mattered. But you cannot say for sure until it actually happens!

Best regards
Jasbir Singh