Pre/Post Marital Relationships

Sat Sri Akal Sadh Sangat
I know this is a controversial topic. It was bogging my mind for sooo many days now, i didn't know who to ask and where to go. Then suddenly right on cue, I got a mail from this post and i said wow, where else would i ask this question. So here it comes....
Infidelity is everywhere around us, on the channels, our friends, relatives, all are doing it. Having multiple relationships is like the order of the day. No body is satisfied with whatever he has.
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Not even guys but even girls are cheating on their parents, spouses, etc.
I know infidelity is not encouraged in ANY Religion, but a youth growing up in these turbulent environments, what should he do to hold on to his beliefs.
I tried to talk myself into sayings, that maybe time will teach them a lesson, whatever you sow you reap, and the worse they will burn in hell .
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But everytime i eXpect them to rot in thell, they are having all the fun.
I don't know, its very easy to get desires overwhelm you, but how do you hold your ground.
What about the older more experienced people in the group, how did you deal with Temptations???

Waheguru ji ka khalsa

 
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Dear Friend SSKOHLI


First of all tell are you ready to withstand the heat generated out of this topic .
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You may be , but what about the Scholars and owner of this site .......

If you have the Courage to go ahead , be prepared to face the music .......

Remember , INFIDILITY is the temporary state .........

Everything will be revealed to you , and ofcourse you will enjoy with only one partner after the revealation ........

So , Are you Ready ...................

Dear Friend SSKOHLI

Getting answers fromt the older people who have already enjoyed , will not suffice you ..........

You should get answers from that person who had withstand SEXual temptations ....................

Remember , To have control of Sexual Desire is not to eliminate them , but the ability to face Sexual Desires , without indulging into anything ........

When a person gets a Airforce Training , remember In one of their training sessions what they do is they switch off the engine of the plane ....

And the plane starts falling down ..... As the plane is about to touch the ground ..... What they have to do is , switch on the engine and takeoff ..........
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Extract From Gurbani :

Remaining Pure Amid Impurities is the sign of a goog moral Character.........

Waheguruji ka khalsa
Sat sri akal saadh sangat jee
Veerjee
Thanks for atleast trying to comment on the post.
Speaking about heat generated, i think this is the typical dilemma faced by our/the religion(s) all over. When it comes to topics like sex, and infidelity i think we just shirk off and think of it as something dirty. I don't know why we are so embaressed about it when it is everywhere and i Think the BIGGEST Obstacle in achieving divinity.
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I thought maybe debating face to face could be a little awkward for ppl, but seeing this (non) reaction online, it just reiterates my doubts.
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As for your reply, though a little theoretical, but I get the point. At the end of the day, I think its just upto each individual how he fends off his temptations.

sskohli

Dear Friend SSKOHLI


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Sex is not a Dirty thing , It is as Sacred as the the GOD is.
How come sex be dirty , with the help of which we are existing on this planet Earth.
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Before we proceed further ...........

But first answer me few Questions .

What is the Business of MCDonalds ?
What is the purpose of this site ?
What should be the minimum age of marriage ?

But before answering them don't ask your friends for answers , write whatever you know, Ok.

I have asked these questions , just to point out the difference between the Illusion and the Real Truth

Sat Sri Akal
What is the Business of MCDonalds ?
A. Real Estate ( Read in some book )

What is the purpose of this site ?
A.To clear myths about sikhism and to have a healthy debate on all aspects of sikhism, and to encourage younger sikhs to appreciate sikhism
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What should be the minimum age of marriage ?
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Dunno that is a difficult thing to answer, I guess around 25ish when you are self sufficient

All these are so independent questions, didn't get their relevance with Our topic of discussion here??

Waheguruji ka khalsa (am i??)
sskohli

Dear friend SSKOHLI


Thought they are independent answers , but they do
have relevance.

Your answer to the first Question is Right Answer
, But I don't think that many people know that ,
Some may say the Hamburger is the Business of
MCDonald.

About Truth , Every one says that god is truth and
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thus ends there everything .......

Let us explore the How to relate truth and
ignorance with day to day living .

Truth about MCDonald :

It is also a truth that they sell Hamburgers .....
It is also a truth that they their real business
is Real Estate .......

Though the first is also truth , but it is
ILLUSION to the ignorant , and if that ignorant
person starts business , wishes to create chain of
restaurants , only on the basis of Hamburgers
without knowing the real thing ........ Will his
business survive........

Your Answer to the second question is also true ,
But it is also an Illusion ,
Starting a discussion forum based on religion is a
good busines model .
(Sorry Aman Veer ji ...... its just an example ).


Your anwer to the third question about the age ,
you have said that self sufficient ..........

Self sufficient is relative term and what is the
limit of self sufficient , cannot be defined
........

But according to nature the Marriagble age should
be something around 13 years approx for women and
15 yrs around approx for men .........

So , just like above we seen that what is illusion
and what is real truth . You can take many
examples from your own life or the life of others
, and start differentialting between the Illusion
and Truth .


It will be a great exercise for your brain
..........


But , it is certain from your first answer that
the power of your brain is under your control ,
and thats a good thing .........


All these stuffs do have relevance with our topic
...................

Remember , when a bread is baked in low temp then
it gets cooked from inside also , it takes time ,
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but when baked in High temperature though it gets
cooked at a faster pace and looks cooked nicely
from outside , but from inside it is still
uncooked........

Sat Sri Akal
Sorry Veerjee I am not going to go all awe and say wow what an excellent reply and all my doubts are cleared and i am a changed person.
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But I will definitely agree, that what you have said will definitely be good food for my mind and I am sure i will digest it slowly and knowingly and also want to have more bites of it.
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The fact still remains (atleast for me) that we (atleast me) tend to follow the crowd, our guruji was completely different from prevalent practices at that time and thus were able to find GOD.
But how easy/difficult is it for common ppl like us to have our way and not unknowingly follow something which has become a trend, so much so that we don't even realise it that we are doing it. I am just not targeting infidelity, but any temptation becoming so common practice its just neXt to impossible for common masses like us to resist.
plain old
sandeep

Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh

Sex is one of man activities of human being. It is one of many desires of men and women. Sexual instinct is one of the basic instincts a living being comes in this world.
Kam, Krodh, Lobh, Moha, Ahankar are the desires we remain busy throughout our life. These keep troubling us at some stage of our life. We have been advise by our Guru to live with these desires and control them in a way so that not to get enslaved by them. The task is not easy but we keep fighting them.
What I feel ( I may be wrong) out of these Five, the desire of Kam should be the easiest to control.
At a given situation the attraction of sex may be the most logical outcome of that particular situation for a Normal Human being. But how we face it and Not get entangled in the circle of desires is what differentiates a Sikh from a Gursikh.

Temptations are everywhere. We do keep facing them and overcoming them daily.
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Take a case of a person who has been diagnosed as suffering from Diabetes, is told by his doctor to stop taking sweets and fats. All of a sudden it may be difficult to overcome the desire to eat sweets but our will power and the desire to do it helps us to control our temptations.

Similarly, ‘Infidelity is everywhere around us, on the channels, our friends, relatives, all are doing it. Having multiple relationships is like the order of the day. No body is satisfied with whatever he has.’
Here, Guru’s guidance helps us to control the wandering heart and mind and gives us strength to face temptations (not only sexual ) that keep coming up daily.