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11-Sep-2012, 16:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Gyani Jarnail Singh  and by the way..the PANJ standing behind Waddeh baba JI Ghagreewallah..( he once referred to them as eh BICHAREH PANJ....) are certainly NOT the REAL PANJ...simialrly there are PANJ and there are PANJ....One Panj will tell you something..another Panj can sya the direct opposite....so in actual FACT...One can CHOOSE the PANJ that one agrees with...a Solid Vegetarian type..can choose the AKJ Panj..the Taksal Panj..the Ghagreewallah Panj...then he/she will hear exactly what he wants to hear..that is AVOID MEAT like the Devils cauldron...IF a person is NOT that crazy about Grass..he can approach the SGPC Maryada PANJ..they will tell you ONLY AVOID KUTTHA...IF one hates meat, and alcohol and eggs etc..he can go to the NAMDHAREE or Nanaksaree Panj..they will BAN all those...
FOLLOW YOUR HEART and Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji....avoid all jathebandees,,dharras..groups..sants..deras..satgu rus...waddeha nd chooteh abbajis..etc etc...hold ON to ONLY Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji...  | Perfectly said veer ji.. I agree 100%!.. There is a lot of money that goes to these pakhandies.. if were to not accept any baabe then we would not have so much confusion and misconceptions.. the extra money could go to actually teaching people how to read gurbani and understand it for themselves.. Got anything to share on This Topic? Why not share your immediate thoughts/reaction with us! Login Now! or Sign Up Today! to share your views... Gurfateh!
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11-Sep-2012, 17:41 PM
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Originally Posted by justosh Humm, well I suppose that's up to you, how you feel comfortable practising Sikhi, by no means did I try to make you feel bad, forgive me for that.
But as guru said Waheguru is inside you, ask Waheguru and you will get your own answer.  | Reply:-
You should read a booklet of Gur Maryada in which it is mentioned a Sikh taking Amriit-pan will never eat Kutha Maas. That confirms a Sikh may eat meat if it is not slaughtered the way Muslims do. It means Sikhs may eat Jhatka whenever they feel like eating meat. | | The following member appreciates palaingtha Ji for the above message. | |
12-Sep-2012, 05:56 AM
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It is so sad... Just so SAD... where our "Community" the Sangat has gone.... Nowadays there is no backing in our Community... Where have we gone?!?!? Look at all this "hypocrisy" - We donīt believe(try to understand) in Guru Granth Sahib and in what is written in it - We rather TALK and ARGUE about NONSENSE topics like meat/flesh and stuff. There are much more IMPORTANT things we should focus on - But we are wasting time and breath on this senseless debates our Guru Ji already cleared up.... In Gurudwaras I everytime see people arguing and stabbing each other in the back.. There is NO understanding for the opposite view - There is just the EGO that wants to prove the "I am right" follow me thing.... People who arenīt (for example Vegetarians) are excluded - behind their back everyone slanders .. and much much more..
Look were our Sikhi has gone!
Most things I can see are Rituals and following of groups /sects / Deras /Swamis and all that stuff..
There is no understanding or trying to understand Gurbani....
Tell your baba at local gurudwara that you are suffering and he will replay : Do 5x Sukmani Sahib a day - everything will get better. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hard-talk/39098-meat-eating-sikhs-acceptable-sikhism-not.html
BUT HOW? Just recieting some words you donīt understand wouldnīt take your further.. nor it will ease your sufferings...
I DONT get IT! Why , is this so??
I mean watch what is happening ...
Almost every week I hear about Beadbi of Guru Granth Sahib...
I hear that Gurudwaras are demolished to build Deras
Why we canīt get together and fix the current situation?
So WTH? Why donīt focus on such things? Rather that all that other stuff? Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=39098
Apologies my offending and raging writing.... I just wwanted to tell that someone..  | | The following members appreciate TigerStyleZ Ji for the above message. | |
12-Sep-2012, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by TigerStyleZ It is so sad... Just so SAD... where our "Community" the Sangat has gone.... Nowadays there is no backing in our Community... Where have we gone?!?!? Look at all this "hypocrisy" - We donīt believe(try to understand) in Guru Granth Sahib and in what is written in it - We rather TALK and ARGUE about NONSENSE topics like meat/flesh and stuff. There are much more IMPORTANT things we should focus on - But we are wasting time and breath on this senseless debates our Guru Ji already cleared up.... In Gurudwaras I everytime see people arguing and stabbing each other in the back.. There is NO understanding for the opposite view - There is just the EGO that wants to prove the "I am right" follow me thing.... People who arenīt (for example Vegetarians) are excluded - behind their back everyone slanders .. and much much more..
Look were our Sikhi has gone!
Most things I can see are Rituals and following of groups /sects / Deras /Swamis and all that stuff..
There is no understanding or trying to understand Gurbani....
Tell your baba at local gurudwara that you are suffering and he will replay : Do 5x Sukmani Sahib a day - everything will get better.
BUT HOW? Just recieting some words you donīt understand wouldnīt take your further.. nor it will ease your sufferings...
I DONT get IT! Why , is this so??
I mean watch what is happening ...
Almost every week I hear about Beadbi of Guru Granth Sahib...
I hear that Gurudwaras are demolished to build Deras
Why we canīt get together and fix the current situation?
So WTH? Why donīt focus on such things? Rather that all that other stuff?
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It is not about arguing nonsense topics. Those Sikhs who do not eat meat regard other Sikhs who do as fallen Sikhs. They believe they are not killing any living thing for their food.
These Sikhs with shallow intellects do not know the vegetables they consume have life and feelings. If you sing happy songs or play good music they grow very well but if there is argument or sad things happening around the plants they wither very soon. The curd they eat is composed of millions and millions of living microbes.
They should stop eating vegetarian food including wheat, rice,lentils and vegetables as also curd.
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12-Sep-2012, 16:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TigerStyleZ Apologies my offending and raging writing.... I just wwanted to tell that someone.. | Veer Ji, I feel your hurt. I understand what you are saying.
What is so hard about staying from these different sects, baabe etc and just be a Sikh of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. What are people scared of? Why go through the middle man when you have direct access to the Guru? | | The following members appreciate BaljinderS Ji for the above message. | |
12-Sep-2012, 17:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BaljinderS Veer Ji, I feel your hurt. I understand what you are saying.
What is so hard about staying from these different sects, baabe etc and just be a Sikh of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. What are people scared of? Why go through the middle man when you have direct access to the Guru? | its hard to hone your own understanding, its easy to pay someone to share theirs | | The following member appreciates harry haller Ji for the above message. | |
13-Sep-2012, 20:59 PM
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The ultimate purpose of Sikhism is to merge in Waheguru in the lifetime we have got as humans. For this one pointed mind is must. Without mind being one pointed concentration cannot be established. Concentration is also of course concerned with the food we take. Like Guru Gobind Singh Ji says - "Alap Aahar Sulap Si Nindhra ...." so my point of food is for sure connected with the concentration levels. Or in other words food habits also affect the concentration/thinking of humans. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=39098Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=39098
Now the point is how much impact flesh or vegetable have on the thinking of a human? Or which food is better in digestion without stressing much the digestion system coz. digestion is the root cause of most diseases.
i personally feel that vegetables are better for digestion compared to flesh so it's keeps concentration at a better level. ...
what you say ?? | | The following member appreciates itsmaneet Ji for the above message. | |
13-Sep-2012, 21:55 PM
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Originally Posted by itsmaneet The ultimate purpose of Sikhism is to merge in Waheguru in the lifetime we have got as humans. For this one pointed mind is must. Without mind being one pointed concentration cannot be established. Concentration is also of course concerned with the food we take. Like Guru Gobind Singh Ji says - "Alap Aahar Sulap Si Nindhra ...." so my point of food is for sure connected with the concentration levels. Or in other words food habits also affect the concentration/thinking of humans.
Now the point is how much impact flesh or vegetable have on the thinking of a human? Or which food is better in digestion without stressing much the digestion system coz. digestion is the root cause of most diseases.
i personally feel that vegetables are better for digestion compared to flesh so it's keeps concentration at a better level. ...
what you say ?? | best ACCORDING TO gurbani IS ....contentment...SEHAJ...RAJJ...EAT TO LIVE AND NOT VICE VERSA...THORRA SAUNDA..THORRAH KHANDA...IS BEST.
TOO MUCH MAHAN DEE DAAL ( even the amritsaree variety) is bad bad bad...too much chholleh..bad bad bad..too much poorian..bad bad bad..too much jalebis..laddoos,..barfee..khoyah..dahi...lassee.. .saag..makkee dee roti..all BAD BAD BAD...so dont depend too much on "vegetarian"...it all DEPENDS on "neet"..rajjj...sehaj...contentment...Thats is why Farid Ji declares..RUKHI SUKI KHHAke Thandah panne peeo..THAT is THE BEST.PERIOD. WE FORGET the BASIC PRINCIPLES of GURBANI..and go nit picking on utterly worthless things...is the saag green enough ?? is the meat chicken or beef..jhatka or halaal..free range or farm fed..etc etc..what matters is the PRINCIPLE..the FOUNDATION OF the HEALTHY BODY MIND...contented sehaj..THERAAH VICH mann... | | The following members appreciate Gyani Jarnail Singh Ji for the above message. | |
15-Sep-2012, 00:51 AM
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Originally Posted by itsmaneet The ultimate purpose of Sikhism is to merge in Waheguru in the lifetime we have got as humans. For this one pointed mind is must. Without mind being one pointed concentration cannot be established. Concentration is also of course concerned with the food we take. Like Guru Gobind Singh Ji says - "Alap Aahar Sulap Si Nindhra ...." so my point of food is for sure connected with the concentration levels. Or in other words food habits also affect the concentration/thinking of humans.
Now the point is how much impact flesh or vegetable have on the thinking of a human? Or which food is better in digestion without stressing much the digestion system coz. digestion is the root cause of most diseases.
i personally feel that vegetables are better for digestion compared to flesh so it's keeps concentration at a better level. ...
what you say ?? |
well science tells us otherwise. If we hadn't eaten meat we'd still be swinging in the trees. Perhaps Brahmins are trying to de-evolve us so they can rule over all humans.  http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/prehistoric_...thought1.shtml http://berkeley.edu/news/media/relea...-14-1999a.html http://www.livestrong.com/article/49...n-development/
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