Women in Sikhi

Of course research is flawed but at least it is less biased than personal experience alone as it is more objective. It is also more easily extracted to the population of the world as a whole than a single person's social sphere.


Of course I am insulted and so are many of the other women reading this! You are telling us that our 2nd X chromosome makes us mean spirited and cruel. Most of my personal experience with males has not been happy. Using your philosophy I declare males to be chauvinistic, selfish, self absorbed and cruel. And this is due to your Y chromosome.
Of course, this is a ridiculous assertion and I am sure you don't believe it anymore than I do but it is just as valid as what you are saying.

 
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I think you are taking my phrase 'in their DNA' too literally. I just meant it is something programmed into women, which like you said could be by the society too! I wasn't really talking at genetic level. I nowhere hinted anything about the Y or the X!

Oh the irony!

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I am really really sorry if you have been insulted by my comments. And if you feel so, I would not comment here further.

"Of course I am insulted and so are many of the other women reading this! You are telling us that our 2nd X chromosome makes us mean spirited and cruel. Most of my personal experience with males has not been happy. Using your philosophy I declare males to be chauvinistic, selfish, self absorbed and cruel. And this is due to your Y chromosome.Of course, this is a ridiculous assertion and I am sure you don't believe it anymore than I do but it is just as valid as what you are saying."
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haha findingmyway ji,
I think Kanwaljit Singh Ji may be going by the popular perception in Hindi dramas etc., and unforutnately some women are like that, and like you mention, some men are like that too. I think it just depends on how strong a person is as an individual, meaning how much they can bear, understand etc., before clicking into biological animal mode of insecurity and possessiveness etc.

Gurfateh

Ladies, females or girls.
Lets face it. MEN are different to women and always will be.
Just like James Brown sang Its a mans world--------I totally agree.

Although I say 'Its a mans world with a womans touch'

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Behind every great man is ____________?
Well, sadly its us men that try to look for another man behind their own success, ignorantly blinded to seeing the real woman behind it.
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Men refuse to accept, whether we admit or not.

I mean regardless of my chromosomes I have NEVER met a man that can multitask. I mean a woman can be often seen feeding the baby in one hand, cooking whole family dinner whilst havingon the phone a genuine conversation using the other hand ALL 3 things at the same time.
HOW does she do that?

A man can NEVER do that, that's why I don't know the answer of how she does it!!

But face it ladies, we can park the car using one hand and without turning around.


Sat kartar
Lucky Singh

These days, I have only one useful hand and I can do almost anything that a two-handed Singh can do, including parallel parking with finesse.

And ain't I a woman?

When the Punjab police decided I was the weakest of our group and so singled me out for special treatment, I, with Guru ji's help, won the encounter and came away with no permanent injuries other than a few scars.

And ain't I a woman?

When the chips were down in Delhi and we were under murderous attack, I pulled out my kirpan and cut the throat of one of the dushts - darned near decapitated the b*star*d, licked his blood from my lips and kept fighting.

And ain't I a woman?

I died two times during a stroke, was revived and survived with my left side paralysed. I learned to walk and talk and do just about everything I did before.

And ain't I a woman?

Don't you Singhs ever dare to talk down to us Kaurs or be patronising! We don't like it. We are as strong and capable as you when we need to be. If we were properly taught to be warrior princesses as Kaurs should be, you would be shocked and dismayed at what we could do. OK, there is one thing you can do that we cannot. We cannot father a child.

I was going to just read and keep silent but you Singhs need to be told exactly who you're dealing with when you show disrespect to Kaurs. Yes, we love you and want you and you really can be most attractive, but if you want to keep us, knock off the dissing.

Sisters! Ain't I a woman!




With thanks to Sojourner Truth.

Lets face it. MEN are different to women and always will be.

uhmm I am not so sure, my mother and wife are both very strong willed, yet quite calm and compassionate. I think women have been put down through the ages, and it is only now that women are realising that they really are no different to men, and are embracing this. Centuries of brain washing is going to have an effect, and take time to recover from.

It is all in the upbringing and the way society treats you that gives you an idea of who you are, if your upbringing and treatment by society confirms that you are 'A' then no doubt, you will become 'A', only the strong minded break this programming and demand equality, the rest see it as their lot and get on with it, in much the same way that untouchables get on with it in India.

In our culture, girls have to see their brothers get treated better, more freedom, more respect, it boils down right to the expression on a new parents face when they are told the sex of the baby, the more enlightened could not care less, the stupid have been known to mourn when it is the wrong sex, or worse, abort. Given this mental treatment of women, it is no surprise that some women end up bitter and twisted, I would be bitter and twisted if all my life I had been led to believe I was second best, it has nothing whatsoever to do with women being different.

There is no masculine or feminine qualities, we are all just people, I am as plentiful in my feminine qualities as I am in my masculine, as is my wife, sometimes it is me that needs a cuddle, sometimes it is me that makes dinner and cleans up, neither sex has a monopoly on the way you feel on a day to day basis.

Lucky Singh Ji,

I do agree with what you say, to some extent but I would like to elaborate...

if anything its a WOMAN'S world with a male facade. without the womb, the nurturing, the home... what would come to be? It's time the credit went to the glue that holds everything together, the FEMININE, which I feel gets ignored in our culture. and it deserves to be celebrated b/c the repercussions of not acknowledging that are leading to things like rampant female infanticide, domestic abuse etc being viewed as ok!!! Fellas need to hear this, and spread it to others b/c usually the abuse happens at the hands of men (sadly) and no woman kills her baby without her husband knowing.

-- THAT is the purpose of this thread, that the feminine deserves to be celebrated, and not be seen as weakness.
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signed,
a girl, female, woman who plans to be very successful in a "man's world" AND to have a family, raise children etc.

I am not even sure what is feminine any more, they say behind every successful man is a woman, but I know for sure Sian stands by my side in everything I do, not behind, as for nurturing, keeping a home, etc, she has taught me plenty about all this, when we first lived together, I was a bit miffed when my dinner did not appear magically on the table, or my socks were not put in my draw, to be honest, yes I was a bit of a pig, but no other woman had behaved like her before, so I guess I was used to it, I lost a cook, cleaner, sexual plaything, but gained a friend and equal, I would not have it any other way now, we take turns being 'masculine' and 'feminine' depending on our workload, and what is going round us.

The other month, we had dinner at a relatives house, after we had all eaten, the women started clearing up and washing while the men talked, in order to be polite, Sian did get up with the rest of the women, but I joined her, followed by my brother, and in the end, all of the men got involved with the clearing and washing, and then all sat down to talk.
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Old habits die hard, it is up to all of us to change them, man or woman!