In Sikhism, is there a Soul? Who created the Soul? Who controls the Soul?

Scarlet Pimpernel · #73 (**permalink**) 13-Oct-2011, 17:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Seeker 3k in the Title of thread

In Sikhism, is there a Soul? Who created the Soul? Who controls the Soul?

Veera another way of looking at it is

In Sikhism is there a Soul who created the Soul, [&] who controls the Soul?

harry haller · #74 (**permalink**) 13-Oct-2011, 17:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Seeker9

Good call

Yes, there is no patriarchal celestial beardy one who is temperamental, selfish and moody at times wrathful (e.g Old Testament) whilst being benevolent at other times

Troubled chap....perhaps He could meditate more for some inner peace....

or maybe he could find Sikhism

spnadmin · #75 (**permalink**) 13-Oct-2011, 22:31 PM

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there is no god

in Sikhism? How is it that I never came to that conclusion?

Ambarsaria · #76 (**permalink**) 13-Oct-2011, 22:40 PM

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Originally Posted by spnadmin

in Sikhism? How is it that I never came to that conclusion?

spnadmin ji my comment for consideration,

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ੴਸਤਿਨਾਮੁ ਕਰਤਾ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਨਿਰਭਉ ਨਿਰਵੈਰੁ ਅਕਾਲ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਅਜੂਨੀ ਸੈਭੰ ਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

ArQ:- Akwl purK ie`k hY, ijs dw nwm 'hoNd vwlw' hY jo isRStI dw rcnhwr hY, jo sB ivc ivAwpk hY, BY qoN rihq hY, vYr-rihq hY, ijs dw srUp kwl qoN pry hY, (Bwv, ijs dw srIr nws-rihq hY), jo jUnW ivc nhIN AwauNdw, ijs dw pRkwS Awpxy Awp qoN hoieAw hY Aqy jo siqgurU dI ikrpw nwl imldw hY[

God/creator is one and is known as the eternal being, the creator of all, present everywhere, without fear, without animosity, is timeless, is not guided by life cycles, is a self creation and is realized through its own (God/creator) blessing.

Sat Sri Akal.

Seeker9 · #77 (**permalink**) 13-Oct-2011, 23:28 PM

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Originally Posted by spnadmin

in Sikhism? How is it that I never came to that conclusion?

I think what Harry Ji meant is there is no beardy patriarchal God that punishes generations and appreciates burnt offerings and begging prayers.....

That is what I think....

Ambarsaria · #78 (**permalink**) 14-Oct-2011, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by harry haller

SPji,

there is no god, the translation of Ek Onkar deserves its own thread

At Harry Haller ji's service in return for his services,

http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat...review-ik.html

Look forward to seeing spn sangat there.

Sat Sri Akal.

spnadmin · #79 (**permalink**) 14-Oct-2011, 04:41 AM

Ambarsaria ji

Yes....

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ੴਸਤਿਨਾਮੁ ਕਰਤਾ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਨਿਰਭਉ ਨਿਰਵੈਰੁ ਅਕਾਲ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਅਜੂਨੀ ਸੈਭੰ ਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

God/creator is one and is known as the eternal being, the creator of all, present everywhere, without fear, without animosity, is timeless, is not guided by life cycles, is a self creation and is realized through its own (God/creator) blessing.

That is how I came to the conclusion that there is a God in Sikhi.

Jappo Satnam Satnam Satnam Ji, Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Ji

Of course I can put [God] in brackets as I frequently do because the word [God] does seem to give some of us hives. In brackets, the word can be used provisionally. Apologies

seeker3k · #80 (**permalink**) 14-Oct-2011, 09:15 AM

SPN ji,

Yes you are right it is my mistake. Sikhism is not from Hinduism.
Sikhs came down from heaven to save the mankind

harry haller · #81 (**permalink**) 14-Oct-2011, 15:36 PM

seeker3kji,

there is no heaven in sikhism

Adminji,

I have a real pet hate for the word 'god' I cannot read the word without associating it with either an abrahamic beardy, or a Hindu style action warrior. I maintain in conversation there is no God, just a force, an energy, that is dual in everything, and the name of this energy is 'truth'

Seeker9ji,

yes, absolutely, my 'god' does not play mind games or act like in a manner that I am trying to defeat, namely anger, ego, etc

Ambersariaji, I look forward to debate on your new thread