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| | | | | SGPC Passes Resolution against BJP MLA April 16, 2011 SGPC passes resolution against BJP MLA
IP Singh, TNN | Apr 16, 2011, 05.23am IST JALANDHAR: A day after people flayed the stopping of fresh water flow into Kali Bein, as a good part of the downstream stretch remained dry even on Baisakhi day and people could take a dip in it, Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC) on Friday passed a resolution against Bharatiya Janata Party MLA Amarjit Sahi for denying historicity of the river and terming it just an ordinary drain. SGPC has asked him to apologize from the Sikh community for such "obnoxious and hurting" remarks about an important historical place.
The issue was raised in the SGPC executive meeting on Friday by its general secretary Sukhdev Singh Bhaur, who said that these remarks were highly obnoxious and intolerable. SGPC sources said that all the executive members and office bearers strongly condemned the remarks and decided to pass a resolution against him.
The SGPC in its resolution said that the BJP MLA had no right to distort the Sikh history with such objectionable remarks and in future he should mind his language before speaking out on the issue. It further said that these remarks hurt the sentiments of the Sikh community as they were not only in poor taste but contrary to the established history. The Sikh body asked him to tender unconditional apology for his remarks.
Sahi had got the release of water into the Bein completely stopped from Mukerian hydel channel on January 30. While strongly opposing release of water in it, he even denied the historicity of the Bein saying that it was an ordinary drain and was not the Bein.
"Bein is somewhere else," he had said even as according to historical accounts Guru Nanak, founder of Sikhism, got enlightenment while taking a bath in the Bein and even important historical marks are also present along the rivulet. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hard-talk/35159-sgpc-passes-resolution-against-bjp-mla.html
Baba Sukhjit Singh, deputy of Baba Balbir Singh Seechewal, said that the MLA even used the same remarks in the presence of Chief Minister Parkash Singh Badal, who had convened a meeting in the last week of March on the issue of releasing water in the Bein. Sahi had got the water stopped claiming that it had caused water logging along the upstream stretch. However, it came out that drains in the area had not been cleaned by the drainage department for the last several years and the official machinery also failed to regulate the excess flow of water used to produce power at a hydro power plant at the Terkiana head. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=35159 source: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...ow/7996766.cms
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16-Apr-2011, 12:52 PM
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| | | | | Re: SGPC Passes Resolution against BJP MLA Dear Soul_jyot,
My immediate comment and thought - it is election time - hard work is done by people like Baba Balbir Singh Seechewal tongue is wagged by those looking for votes - see if SGPC even remember the issue in a month's time! The CM should be embalmed and put Hindu temple. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=35159 Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=35159 | | The following members appreciate davinderdhanjal Ji for the above message. | | 
16-Apr-2011, 13:03 PM
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| | | | | Re: SGPC Passes Resolution against BJP MLA The BJP reveals its TRUE COLOURS many many times a YEAR...especially at Sikh Gurpurabs, Sikh takhats, and in the PRESENCE of the Badals and SGPC stalwarts and Jathedars who always keep SILENT.
1. The BJP leaders kept on referring to Baba Banda SINGH as Banda BAIRAGI....repeatedly at the Opening ceremony of the Banda Singh memorial recently.. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=35159
2. The President of India !!! kept referring to Guru Gobind Singh Ji as just govind and then as Govind RAAM - while reading from a PREPARED SPEECH at Harmandar sahib, in the presence of sgpc, jathedars, badal etc.
3. The BJP leaders have ALWAYS and without FAIL either insulted or denigrated Sikh Gurus, Sikh history, or Sikh martyrs at SIKH FUNCTIONS.
4. just too many incidents.....if you are not convinced..just wait for the NEXT Sikh gurpurab where the Badals invite the BJP to speak on Sikh Gurus/history..they WILL REPEAT their INSULTS and on the FACE of Badals sgpc presidents and jathedars sitting on stage...and not one will get up to silence them. BADAL says the BJP is his wife..if so HE IS HENPECKED!! or its the other way around..and Badal is the Dutiful Bharatee Wife who endures all insults from patee parmeshar. | | The following members appreciate Gyani Jarnail Singh Ji for the above message. | | 
16-Apr-2011, 13:06 PM
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| | | | | Re: SGPC Passes Resolution against BJP MLA AND YES..this "protest" is definitley a Fishing for Sikh Votes by the Badals. Not genuine at all and as devindershajanl says..it will be soon confiend to t he dustbin by makkarr - just as soon as the sgpc election is  over. | | The following member appreciates Gyani Jarnail Singh Ji for the above message. | | 
16-Apr-2011, 20:26 PM
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| | | | | Re: SGPC Passes Resolution against BJP MLA Dear Gyani Jarnail Singh Ji, I take following points from your comments:
1. Misery likes company - the uneducated leaders 'badels' and 'bjp politicians' need each other to make them look as though they stand vertical (i.e. not bent) Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=35159
2. All Sikhs need to learn respectful and sincere titles for the Gurus and our fighters so that people who either flower up the titles or abuse them truly and easily stand out to Gursikhs and these people can be repudiated en mass!
3. This one is more of a question - we need to involve people like Dr. Sukhpreet Singh Udhoke to go to print with his historical and Sikhi matt so that more people like him act as disseminators of knowledge for the general public. | | The following members appreciate davinderdhanjal Ji for the above message. | | 
17-Apr-2011, 07:04 AM
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| | | | | Re: SGPC Passes Resolution against BJP MLA Now the Other side...according to the MLA involved..the EXCESS Water in the Bein River has been shut OFf due to flooding/seepage into the fileds of surrounding fields. Hundreds of farmers affected came out to support him and shouted slogans agnaisnt baba seechewaal for ignoring their plight. Assemblyman says Makkar should have heard his side before passing the sgpc resolution...so it does look like a vote fishing expedition by makkar after all... Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=35159Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=35159
Baba SEECHEWAL is well known for RAILROADING/BULLDOZING his way over well being of farmers whose fileds line the Bein river banks...at one such demonstration i visited about 3 years ago...his GOONS were rushing farmers with sticks and beating them. At that tiem seechewaal wanted each farmer to give up 20 ft of land by the river banks for tree planting...and a Punjabi farmer will give up his mother but not an inch of his land !! hence the demonstration that turned violent..guess seechewaal didnt figure on that... | 
17-Apr-2011, 14:28 PM
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| | | | | Re: SGPC Passes Resolution against BJP MLA Gyani Ji,
( .his GOONS were rushing farmers with sticks and beating them.) Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=35159
What came first the river or the farmers - what have they done to look after the edges of the river? Seechewal (I am not in on the full story) as I see it, gives them an example to say this is how the river can be cleaned, if the farmers are Sikhs - I would have thought they would thank him and give him a hand. If the river errosion is so bad (assuming that is the case as Seechewal thinks trees would stem it) may be because the river means something to Sikhs, our Akal Takhat, SGPC (I persume it would not occur to brahmanic Punjab government) who are loaded with SIKH money can line the banks with bricks or concrete or is that too Sikhi! Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=35159
I have never heard of anybody complain about too much water in Punjab (I guess votes can) May be this behaviour has kept us at least 30 years technically behind China who pulled their heads out of opium and did something - we cannot see beyond VOTES and foresake the infrastructure required for our children to enjoy what our forefathers gave their lives for. | | The following member appreciates davinderdhanjal Ji for the above message. | | 
17-Apr-2011, 16:35 PM
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| | | | | Re: SGPC Passes Resolution against BJP MLA 1. a BABA is a holy man....absolutley no question of allowing/condoning... strong arm tactics...i saw one farmer with an broken nose ( hes about 70+ judgng form his white beard)....river or no river..HUMANITY comes FIRST.
2. The Farmers are subsistence farmers..each having just about 2 killas (acres) just barely ENOUGH as it is...they farm right up to the road sides...every inch is valuable....river or no river...Some farms unfortunately surrounded by the WINDING bein on 3 sides...that farmer will lose HALF his land....if he gives away 20 feet all around...nearby to sultanpur the river winds like a snake coiled tightly... Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=35159Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=35159
3. not easy to solve many problems...but each sector ahs to be considered.. | | The following members appreciate Gyani Jarnail Singh Ji for the above message. | | 
18-Apr-2011, 15:16 PM
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| | | | | Re: SGPC Passes Resolution against BJP MLA Gyani Ji,
Forgive me for the views I have presented. My comments and information is what I have read (I know that significant amount of the information out there is or can be tainted).
However it came to mind that with the destructive element in Punjab and Indian Government, SGPC and Akal Takhat and I would not be surprised about people who want to stop people like Seechawal showing them up. For that reason the incidence could have been staged by them. As I heard Seechawal did the cleaning of the river without any funds and support from anybody, I was impressed - I would like to see other people with these sentiments! Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=35159
But if you are sure that it was a reality that Seechawal's helper got carried away - further search on him will be needed. I am always looking for some people who I think contribute to Sikhi so their names can be used as examples to lift the general moral of Sikhs and Gursikhs. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=35159
I just read the news that Australian Sikhs are also disappointed with Punjab Sikh leadership - http://sikhsindia.blogspot.com/2011/...rabandhak.html
I would think now a ' Commonwealth of Sikhs' is required where Punjab India and Punjab Pakistan have one vote each along with all the other countries as separate votes and Akal Takhat functions with agreement of these component countries. In my opinion Akal Takhat should not even be in India but move depending on which country does most for the Sikhs and Sikhi. | 
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