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Old 07-Mar-2011, 01:28 AM
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The generic email to all gurdwaras worldwide is an excellent way forward to try and resolve this issue.
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As i have family members that are not able to move from one wheel chair to another, i don't think it is practical for in house gurdwara wheelchairs.It is extremely embarrasing for people to have to move from their own wheelchair to another or to be moved to another room by someone that they may not know.

We attended a family wedding where two family members in wheelchairs were asked to sit outside while the wedding ceremony took place.

I am a young sikh female, and think we should welcome all into the gurdwara, as sikhism encourages and welcomes all regardless of their sex, disability, race etc.

It is good to see sikhs are working together on this website to resolve this issue across all gurdwaras, to welcome all.



 
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Re: Wheelchair Not Allowed in Gurdwaras?

While watching people put chains on cars to drive in the snow, a simple idea came to me.

If the objection to wheelchairs is bringing in dirt from outside, why not make a simple covering for the wheels? They could easily be slipped onto the wheels and removed when the chair leaves the gurudwara. They could be either disposable or, much better, reusable.
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Is this as good an idea as I think it is?

Of course, if the real objection is that people just don't want wheelchairs in darbar sahib, then the only solution would be to either knock those prejudiced bullies up alongside the head (maybe that would knock some semse into them!) or cure all the people who need the wheelchairs.
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Re: Wheelchair Not Allowed in Gurdwaras?

Dear Mai Ji

Sometimes the simplest ideas are by far the best!

One other issue that has been highlighted in an earlier post on this thread is the alleged disrespect of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji if one where to sit at a certain height in a wheelchair....

Do you and others think this is a problem for some narrow minded, inflexible, lacking any measure of common sense and a number of other things I had better not write here, Gurdwara "sevadars"?

Also, on reflection, I can see another potential problem which is just basic accessibilty features of the building itself. I note what Findingmyway Ji said in that:

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.all public buildings in the UK have to have access for disabled users so problems with buildings is not a valid reason in the UK. However, India and other countries do not have the disability discrimination act 1995 (recently amended so the name might have changed).
But I must confess I am not 100% certain and will check for this the next time I visit

For example, one of the Glasgow Gurdwaras is in an old building....architecturally, it's a rather nice building but accessibility-wise...it's a complete nightmare

Even before you get to the doorway, there is a stone staircase from the street and I have seen and helped elderly people go up and down the steps. I have seen them struggle and make a couple of stops on the way

Then once inside, the Langar is downstairs but the main hall is upstairs and I know there are no lifts in the building....so I honestly can't imagine how a wheelchair user would cope in that building

Very sad
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Re: Wheelchair Not Allowed in Gurdwaras?

I am a member of an online group called Freecycle. We post things we have that we want to get rid of and can also ask for things we want. Everything is freely given, no money, no swaps. Just giving and receiving. The purpose is to cut down on waste and keep things out of the landfill, as well as to help each other.

I couldn't help but think of the difference in attitude between us and the Christians when I just now received this request:

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Our church needs a wheelchair to be used at our building to help visitors and members with disabilities. IF you have one with the "leg extensions" as well...that will be great!
Please email [e-mail addresses deleted] with time and place to pick up.
Thank you,
Nancy
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