Hindu-Sikh Conflict in Punjab: Causes and Cure

I actually do not have a list already prepared, but could construct one for you, given time. And we have one thread here at SPN about a book by a well-known scholar. I will dig it up for you, but can't do that right away. Won't forget.
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I believe we are over complicating or philosophizing this. Are not the following tenents of what has evolved, is happening and will happen,

• Pre- 1947
  • Hindus needed Sikhs due to Indian Army under the British
  • Sikhs needed Hindus as to be lesser of the two evils having somehow determined not to ask for a Sikh state
• Post- 1947
  • Hindu's need for Sikhs as a constituency continued to diminish
  • Sikh's frustration with the Hindus continued to get worse
  • Punjab fell apart and soon what is left will have a Hindu majority
• Going forward 2011+
  • Why should Hindus care for Sikhs?
    • Sikhs are not a strategic or otherwise cohesive constituency
  • Hindus can conveniently re-phrase history, minimize Sikhs when and however they choose to
  • Hindus don't need Sikhs to fight Muslims
    • Muslims are going to be marginalized and decimated through cultural or other soft means

So if I was a Hindu playing along with the above I will say,
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hard-talk/31971-hindu-sikh-conflict-punjab-causes-cure.html

• There is no Hindu-Sikh conflict in Punjab, unless
  • Sikhs want lost rights or other such things
    • Hindus will classify such as radicals
  • Sikhs want to maintain a sustained and flourishing Sikh centric Societal base in Punjab
    • Secularism will be thrown at them if they do so!
    • Seekers will be classified as radicals
• Heaven forbid if Sikhs seek minor self rule or governance
  • Forget about Khalistan (only time in my mind for such was pre-1947 or soon after and no later than the mid 50s) as the threshold of tolerance for such is continuously lowered with every passing day
    • Seekers will be called radicals/Khalistanis

Pretty simple or am I missing something? This is all logical and natural to me. Sikhs have been between a rock and a hard place for a long time except that the rock and the hard place are getting closer causing more pain.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=31971

Solution:

• Better leadership
• Better education of the up and coming generation
  • Abandonment of "Hum 2, Humare 2" (Two of us, two for us) population control
    • Minimum a co-ed Hockey or cricket team for every family
• Better dissemination of Sikhism within India and abroad
  • Specifically within India amongst the down trodden and under-priviledged
• Greater collective kinship between Sikhs across the world

Sat Sri Akal.

You are wrong here ,day by day muslims are getting stronger.There influence in votes have increased too much.also large scale muslims are migrating from Bangladesh so in future demography will be in their favour


LOL and Who is going to do this.To support this kind of family man has to work like machine and woman has to become baby making machine.Forget about large families many sikhs these days are not even marrying

Amberseria Ji,



I guess you agree there is a problem between the Sikhs and majority ruling class in India. I am not sure whether there is direct conflict between Hindus and Sikhs.

If the Hindu families were supposed to ‘provide’ one male in family to be Sikh we would have had not only increase in Sikh population but family ties with them too. This went by the board – why?

Deras and Babas popping up all over – why?

Recently someone discovered about 100m followers of Guru Nanak in South of India – over 500 years after Nanak – has that made any impact on Sikh society – no – why?

Your comment that Sikhs are not needed by Hindus today implies Hindus needed Sikhs – when Guru Nanak knocked sense into (northern Indian people?) Hindus of that time something stirred our minds and changed direction ‘to follow Guru Nanak’s teachings’ and we did– why?
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=31971



The line of the discussion that I was following in the posts above related to the corruption of scriptures – may be a slight departure from the above but related in my understanding. What is this nature in ‘humans’ (am I taking liberty with this word?) that all the decent documents, scriptures, and tenets have to be corrupted rather than understood – why?

The Granth Sahib tells us not to ignore Vedas and Shasters –but when we attempt (I have enough difficulty going through Sikh scriptures – I have taken analyses from other wiser than me) they are corrupted as well – why?

Christian Bible is updated every so often – what teaching should we believe – i.e. when did that start changing and - why?

Koran has six revelations over 22 years some superseding the others and some teachings found contradictory and nasiks applied override them, the hadiths – some follow these and some do not – but Islam ruled nearly ½ the world up to some time – why?
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=31971

We have only our Gurus to thank for the Granth Sahib – they knew this (corruption) happens and something to counteract it is necessary – so the saboteurs generate other granths and tenets to fool the gullible. I am educated well enough to see how this is destroying our present and future for our children – it is our duty to share the knowledge and raise the awareness.

In general the answer to most of the questions is that we have we have lost the yearning to follow the Inner Truth –why I wonder?