Jatts and Tharkans have a fight!

Narayanjot Kaur · #10 (**permalink**) 05-Aug-2010, 06:13 AM

Jaat bashing would not be helpful either. Just more discrimination, only in reverse. It would be more helpful if divisions within the Siikh quom were understood in light of their historical causes. Until we can do that we will never be able to appreciate the value of diversity, as an opportunity to learn from others and from their point of view. Certainly that Jaat vs Tharkan division is only one example of how much learning we have left to do.
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The people who are advocating Russian origins of the Jaats are a bit mixed up. There are several theories - and they are only theories of the origins of the Jaats. None of these theories can be proved scientifically because of the diverse gene pool of Northern India, the result of many waves of invasion from the north. By Russian, what they really mean is Scythian. The Scythian hypothesis is one that historians do debate. These peoples were a nomadic and war-like culture that inhabited the steppes of central Asia in what once once the Soviet Union. That is where the Russian connection comes in, but not really. The Scythians BTW roamed over a very wide area and are also believed to be the ancestors of more than only the Jaats.

badshah · #11 (**permalink**) 05-Aug-2010, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Narayanjot Kaur

Jaat bashing would not be helpful either. Just more discrimination, only in reverse. It would be more helpful if divisions within the Siikh quom were understood in light of their historical causes. Until we can do that we will never be able to appreciate the value of diversity, as an opportunity to learn from others and from their point of view. Certainly that Jaat vs Tharkan division is only one example of how much learning we have left to do.

The people who are advocating Russian origins of the Jaats are a bit mixed up. There are several theories - and they are only theories of the origins of the Jaats. None of these theories can be proved scientifically because of the diverse gene pool of Northern India, the result of many waves of invasion from the north. By Russian, what they really mean is Scythian. The Scythian hypothesis is one that historians do debate. These peoples were a nomadic and war-like culture that inhabited the steppes of central Asia in what once once the Soviet Union. That is where the Russian connection comes in, but not really. The Scythians BTW roamed over a very wide area and are also believed to be the ancestors of more than only the Jaats.

Yeahh but sterotypes are so engrained in our people for some reason:

Jatts - love to fight
Tharkans - stingy, dont spend money
Khatris - satanic, stuck-up
Chamars/Churays - well hey just got stigma attched to them which just does net get shaken off

I have noticed though money and education does seem to break these barriers, if you have plenty money then you bypass alot of these things

Narayanjot Kaur · #12 (**permalink**) 05-Aug-2010, 09:51 AM

badshah ji

On your last point- I am not in a position to really know. Take your word. I am aware that the Jaat/Tharkan animosities are extreme in the UK, and the reason for more than one forced marriage arranged to break up a budding but forbidden inter-caste romance.