Harleen Kaur Nottay: Britain's Next Top Model?

I agree completely on this point. The entire matter is a ball of tangled yarn. How to get to the bottom of it?

 
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Wow!

When I saw this thread, I did not even bother reading it but after seeing 64 posts, it aroused my curiosity and I decided to read each and every post.

Before I offer my 2 cent worth, I have a question for people who live in India.

Are there any beauty contests in India where Sikh contestants participate and is there a swim suit category in it?

I agree with Narayanjot ji's last post that,"The entire matter is a ball of tangled yarn."

In order to untangle this yarn, knot by knot, we would have to make Sikhi into a much bigger tent than it is where traditions and the Gurmat Ideals given to us by our only Guru Sri Guru Granth Sahib can intermingle and sometimes can be conflicting which would make us breed acceptance of others, no matter how they look outwardly, with or without baana but how they pitch in the society to make it better with the help of Gurmat Ideals, which is the duty of anyone who calls himself/herself a Sikh.

Let's not forget that there are also Sehajdhari Sikhs and Bhai Nand Lal did not take Khandei di pahul but he is respected in Sikhi.

Guru Gobind Singh ji gave the name Singh and Kaur to only those that took Khandei de pahul but then later on the tradition allowed Sikhs to keep hair or not and have the name Singh and Kaur which has been accepted by us for a long time.

Those who live in India may not understand this, but some parts of the diaspora society is much more conservative and have the taliban mentality than the Amritdhari Sikhs living in India.
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A play called Bhetzi was banned in the UK due to the protests by these Sikhs with the taliban mentality. This was discussed here.(Request to the Moderators, please locate the thread and post it here).

So, Harleen's concern as a UK resident is genuine and should been see under the above light.

It is very easy for us to judge others by their appearance or actions. It is like playing Ik Ong Kaar which makes us forget that Sikhi is a jounrney of the individual, hence each of us carries his/her own spiritual torch. Sri Guru Granth Sahib, our only Guru urges us to become better as individuals, not cast stones at others whom we think our unfit according to our own subjective benchmarks.

Let's strive to become better as individuals and give our best wishes to Harleen in her career which is a very short lived one.
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Who knows that she becomes an Amritdhari Sikh and turns out to be much better than all of us through her deeds after this short lived gig is over!

Tejwant Singh

Harlene Nottay lost the competition. Circumstances turned out to be very traumatic for her.
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I will post the link to the story.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/sc...6908-22443174/
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My lingering questions are these. Whether judging her and pushing her aside is more fitting a reaction? Or whether compassion and taking a lesson learned about missteps in my own life is better?

Ouch! Narayanjot ji, please quit tweaking my ego! At least in me, there is an element of "Hmmmph! I'd never do such a thing." And I wouldn't. But who am I to judge her? If I were to list my infractions against accepted Sikh behaviour, they would make quite a long list.

I read as many comments on that story as I could stomach. Are people really that small-minded and cruel? Someone please remind me to be kinder.

"Be kinder than is necessary. Everybody is fighting some battle. Their invisible wounds may be deeper than you can imagine."

Mai ji

I knew you would say all the above. What happened is painful -- "Harlene's Rude Awakening." She has to make sense of it for herself. She seemed to have anticipated, just judging from the starter articles, it was not going to be easy.

SSA.
I dont know what all the fuss is about, if she wants to be a model then its her choice. I dont think she is that nice anyway in my opinion, but thats besides the point. She should not have bought all the backlash buisness into it. I mean she is westernised to having a boyfriend and telling the world yet she seems worried about a backlash regarding her profession seems odd.

Narayanjot ji, you know me entirely too well. It's about time for me to throw some jellybeans into the machinery. http://alexpeak.com/twr/rhstt/

*** - I take back everything I said earlier about wishing her good luck in her modelling career..... stupid b1#^& has got the word Sikh and a picture of a naked girls on a bed in between the legs of a guy that looks like he is going to hump her...... before I saw this pic I was just about to post something positive again and say that she is taking risk and will go places but after seeing a newspaper article with the title including Sikhs and the content including "Sikh girl" and then this pic:

The picture has been deleted because of its content. Forum members who wish to see it can go to the link to the follow up article. Although this may be censorship of a kind, we do reserve the right to delete images that admin or moderators may deem lewd.

Why did she have to go around she is SIkh etc, she could have said she wads Indian or Asia...... I mean you dont hear of girls saying, hey I am a Hindu nude model, or a Muslim glamour model etc etc.

Good luck to her, she has a great career ahead of her in porn, they will be knocking on her door soon.....

"lazycalm wrote:
just another gold digga,trying to make a quick buck,nice try love.
29/7/2010 8:09 AM BST on dailyrecord.co.uk "

"langsidemonument wrote: I don't know much about Sikhism but I would think she was already on her way to their version of excommunication by disrobing in public in the first place. Being then asked to pose beside other males and females probably couldn't make the situation any worse!
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I don't like when the race card is pulled - discrimination and equal rights should work in reverse too."
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Can we get her to come to the Gurudwara so that we can give her a Saroop for her excellent work?