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| | | | | Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh member wins Hindu temple election Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hard-talk/29201-rashtriya-swayamsevak-sangh-member-wins-hindu.htmlReference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29201 Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh member wins Hindu temple election By Gurpreet Singh Publish Date: February 11, 2010 Almost three months after the Guru Nanak Sikh Temple election was won by an orthodox Sikh youth slate, the Surrey Hindu Temple election has gone to a group led by a member of an ultranationalist Hindu group. On January 31, Parshotam Goel, a member of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), was elected president of the temple governed by the Vedic Hindu Cultural Society of B.C., soundly defeating a slate led by Sunny Chohan. The RSS is a volunteer group that advocates vociferously for a Hindu India. Goel’s election coincided with the martyrdom day of Mohandas Gandhi, the father of the Indian nation and an international peace icon. He was assassinated by Nathuram Godse, a Hindu extremist formerly associated with the RSS, on January 30, 1948. The RSS was banned for about a year after Gandhi’s murder. In an interview with the Straight, Goel dismissed critics who have accused the RSS of being against minorities, including Muslims and Christians, and wanting to turn India into a theocratic Hindu state. “The RSS is not a terrorist group,” he said. “It does not operate secretly. It’s a true nationalist group that teaches us to be proud Hindus. How does that harm secularism?’’ Goel, who was also elected in 2005, is the only member of the winning slate with strong ties to the RSS. He acknowledged that he supported the RSS campaign for the construction of a Hindu temple in the ancient Indian city of Ayodhya, the reputed birthplace of Lord Ram, a beloved Hindu god. Hindu militants had pulled down the Babri mosque on a disputed site in 1992, triggering violence that continued on and off for years. Hindu leaders claimed that the mosque was built by former Muslim rulers who had destroyed an original Ram temple. A fiery Hindu preacher, Sadhvi Rithambara, was blamed for inciting the mobs in Ayodhya with her anti-Muslim oratory. According to Goel, she has twice visited the Surrey Hindu Temple. “We had also invited former RSS leader K. S. Sudarshan in the past and wish to invite the current chief, [Mohan] Bhagwat,’’ he said. Goel said he is focusing more on issues relating to “the community at large’’, emphasizing that he wants to educate youth about the real values of Hinduism and contribute to the betterment of Surrey Memorial Hospital. In 2007, he helped create the Hindu-Sikh Unity Campaign to bring Hindus and moderate Sikhs together to counter pro-Khalistan Sikh separatists in B.C. Source URL: http://www.straight.com/article-288479/vancouver/rss-member-wins-hindu-temple-election
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| | | | | Re: Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh member wins Hindu temple election RSS is basically a wing of BJP.BJP was formed from the Bhartiya Jan Sangh .
All India Congress when translated to Hindi means Akhil Bhartiya Jan Sangh.Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29201
Both are same .Some people may be fooled that Sonia Gandhi,Manmohan Singh are better for the Sikhs but they are mistaken.LK Advani himself claims that it was BJP which pressurised Indra Gandhi to attack Darbar Sahib,Amritsar.Actually every thing happens according to the Hindutva agenda no matter which party is in the center.
So it doesn't matter whether a Congress candidate wins some where or BJP one.
The following video from youtube shows this that basically the agenda of differently named parties is same and the Hindutva groups operate "legally" to oppress Sikhs in India : Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29201
In the above video you can also see K.S.Sudarshan with none other than the Badal dal Delhi leader Onkar Thapar. | | The following member appreciates kee_jaana_mein_kaun Ji for the above message. | | 
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| | | | | Re: Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh member wins Hindu temple election From the news posted above ( Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh member wins Hindu temple election ) it is apparent that the RSS ( aka BJP ) are aggressively spreading their tentacles overseas by attempting also to infiltrate Sikh Gurdwaras / organizations to fulfill their hidden agenda ! Hopefully our overseas Sikh leaders are wide awake and aware of this situation! | | The following members appreciate Soul_jyot Ji for the above message. | | 
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| | | | | Re: Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh member wins Hindu temple election That is a good point Soul_Jyot ji. These are very crafty people and it won't be easy but has to be doggedly pursued. | | The following member appreciates Narayanjot Kaur Ji for the above message. | | 
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| | | | | Re: Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh member wins Hindu temple election Not sure how winning a hindu temple election is connected to spreading tentacles in Sikhism but its not a good sign that RSS is getting influence outside India. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29201
I think in the UK it really would have to do with Muslims getting influence. otherwise, it makes no sense to me why Youth or even Oldies will support RSS. RSS and its Sangh fellows restrict freedom which youngies don't like. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29201
To be honest, I don't really go to temple in Australia so I wouldn't know if they are gaining influence here. Although, the biggest Non-Southy temple here is of Gujratis and they are quite into their BJP and RSS. | | The following member appreciates AusDesi Ji for the above message. | | 
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| | | | | Re: Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh member wins Hindu temple election Also, I really hate these Sadhvis who have given up everything in favour of firing up the crowds for riots. There fire up the crowd much worse than the men.
They use emotive words to make the men feel like their own sister or mother is being attacked. I remember my dad was watching one of the dharmic talks by Sadhvi Ritambhara on Sadhna channel. The entire crowd was crying. It would be good if she used it for good things like this rather than destructing structures. | | The following member appreciates AusDesi Ji for the above message. | | 
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| | | | | Re: Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh member wins Hindu temple election Quote:
Originally Posted by AusDesi Also, I really hate these Sadhvis who have given up everything in favour of firing up the crowds for riots. There fire up the crowd much worse than the men.
They use emotive words to make the men feel like their own sister or mother is being attacked. I remember my dad was watching one of the dharmic talks by Sadhvi Ritambhara on Sadhna channel. The entire crowd was crying. It would be good if she used it for good things like this rather than destructing structures. |
This is really interesting stuff that you are reporting. What motivates people like this. They exist in every religion. (Maybe not all, forgive me.) There is a Christian preacher on TV who does this. One of his sermons can last for an hour and a half. He has everyone believing they are being stalked by The Evil X -- which turns out to be "sex" -- but he never gets to his point until an audience of 5000 people are quivering and shaking and sobbing and making confessions. It is criminal IMHO. | 
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| | | | | Re: Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh member wins Hindu temple election Quote:
Originally Posted by Narayanjot Kaur This is really interesting stuff that you are reporting. What motivates people like this. They exist in every religion. (Maybe not all, forgive me.) There is a Christian preacher on TV who does this. One of his sermons can last for an hour and a half. He has everyone believing they are being stalked by The Evil X -- which turns out to be "sex" -- but he never gets to his point until an audience of 5000 people are quivering and shaking and sobbing and making confessions. It is criminal IMHO. | Having studied marketing and linguistics I can purely look at it from that prespective. Its all using subconscious signals which brings people's guards down.
I remember Rithambhara devi talking about her family once. The kind of poverty she had to go through. She used lots of emotive language and symbolism to get people's attention. Plus she has a voice which would make anyone adopt her as their mother.
It went something like this(translation):
"Believe in god and you find happiness. Believe in money and you never will.
We(I) lived in so much poverty. We had no shoes. My mother had it the worst. She would feed us and she would not eat. She would make us sleep with growling in her stomach. One night her hunger was really strong.(At this point she starts crying. So does the crowd).
She went outside and ate the dried mud.(crowd crying along with her). She cried and ate the mud but her belief in god never shook.
The next day we had a sadhu come to our house. We had no food for ourselves, what would we give the sadhu. My mother hit her head on the wall and said 'God, what do I give the sadhu when my kids go hungry'.(at this stage the crowd is going crazy). Then she tore off a cloth and put some seeds in it and she said 'The sadhu should never go hungry'.
She goes on a bit more about this then she says.
Today at this place we feed thousands of people every hour. So many of you will have the food here. It all goes back to my mother's belief in god. Sometime I say to myself 'come back mother and see. Come back and eat a stomach full of food. We feed thousands. Your small stomach will fill easily'" At this point, the crowd is just about collapsing from the crying.
Anyways, the point of all this is the emotive words and symbolism.
belief in god
consumerism
poverty
no shoes
growling stomach
mother not eating - anyone who has watched Mother India will know this
eating dried mud/clay
Sadhu
giving alms to the sadhu
sadhu not going hungry - Saeen itna deejeye, ja me kutum samay, main bhi bhooka na rahun, mera sadh na bhooka jay.
Most of these have been experienced by people in India. It has subconsciously set in their memories. You just need to get it out and see the result.
As an example. I am an only child. I have no subconscious memories of a sister so I never get worked up at "bhen****" or "behenon pe atyachaar hua". I have no face to put in the mind image when someone says "your sister". Therefore, I have no picture of someone fornicating with this supposed sister.
On the other hand, I once hear my mum crying while I was sleeping. She had lost money in an airline ticket. I was deep asleep but i jumped out of bed to console her. I knew the cry even while deep sleeping because its in the memory from childhood. | | The following member appreciates AusDesi Ji for the above message. | | 
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| | | | | Re: Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh member wins Hindu temple election Aus_Desi ji
A very powerful and convincing explanation. I have to mull on this more often. | 
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