Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh member wins Hindu temple election

Originally Posted by AusDesi

Not sure how winning a hindu temple election is connected to spreading tentacles in Sikhism but its not a good sign that RSS is getting influence outside India.

I think in the UK it really would have to do with Muslims getting influence. otherwise, it makes no sense to me why Youth or even Oldies will support RSS. RSS and its Sangh fellows restrict freedom which youngies don't like.

To be honest, I don't really go to temple in Australia so I wouldn't know if they are gaining influence here. Although, the biggest Non-Southy temple here is of Gujratis and they are quite into their BJP and RSS.

Originally Posted by AusDesi

Having studied marketing and linguistics I can purely look at it from that prespective. Its all using subconscious signals which brings people's guards down.

I remember Rithambhara devi talking about her family once. The kind of poverty she had to go through. She used lots of emotive language and symbolism to get people's attention. Plus she has a voice which would make anyone adopt her as their mother.

It went something like this(translation):

"Believe in god and you find happiness. Believe in money and you never will.

We(I) lived in so much poverty. We had no shoes. My mother had it the worst. She would feed us and she would not eat. She would make us sleep with growling in her stomach. One night her hunger was really strong.(At this point she starts crying. So does the crowd).

She went outside and ate the dried mud.(crowd crying along with her). She cried and ate the mud but her belief in god never shook.

The next day we had a sadhu come to our house. We had no food for ourselves, what would we give the sadhu. My mother hit her head on the wall and said 'God, what do I give the sadhu when my kids go hungry'.(at this stage the crowd is going crazy). Then she tore off a cloth and put some seeds in it and she said 'The sadhu should never go hungry'.

She goes on a bit more about this then she says.

Today at this place we feed thousands of people every hour. So many of you will have the food here. It all goes back to my mother's belief in god. Sometime I say to myself 'come back mother and see. Come back and eat a stomach full of food. We feed thousands. Your small stomach will fill easily'" At this point, the crowd is just about collapsing from the crying.


Anyways, the point of all this is the emotive words and symbolism.

belief in god
consumerism
poverty
no shoes
growling stomach
mother not eating - anyone who has watched Mother India will know this
eating dried mud/clay
Sadhu
giving alms to the sadhu
sadhu not going hungry - Saeen itna deejeye, ja me kutum samay, main bhi bhooka na rahun, mera sadh na bhooka jay.

Most of these have been experienced by people in India. It has subconsciously set in their memories. You just need to get it out and see the result.

As an example. I am an only child. I have no subconscious memories of a sister so I never get worked up at "bhen****" or "behenon pe atyachaar hua". I have no face to put in the mind image when someone says "your sister". Therefore, I have no picture of someone fornicating with this supposed sister.

On the other hand, I once hear my mum crying while I was sleeping. She had lost money in an airline ticket. I was deep asleep but i jumped out of bed to console her. I knew the cry even while deep sleeping because its in the memory from childhood.

Originally Posted by kee_jaana_mein_kaun

This is just one example of how some one who claims that he is neutral towards RSS and it's offshoots but becomes passionate when some finger is raised at it's functioning.

I have come across many such examples in the past also.Interestingly their arguments are also similar.

RSS claims that a number of Sikhs support them in Punjab but when RSS Punjab chief Rulda was shot not a single Sikh came out on the streets to protest.

His funeral was attended mostly by BJP leaders including the Badal duo only

Originally Posted by kee_jaana_mein_kaun

She is talking about other religions and countries.Had this been in a really neutral country she would have been under some "Anti Terrorist Act" or "National Security Act" .Not only this had any person of minority community said just 1/4 of this he would have been in jail "indefinately" .No body is blind ,everyone knows an unknown number of Sikhs are in jail these days just for protesting "peacefully" against derawaad.

Another example of Sadhvi Rithambara's cheli is Hindu terrorist Sadhvi Pragya Thakur directly responsible for blood shed at Malagaon .We all know nothing will happen to her in India but had this been a really neutral and secular country Thakur would have been hanged by now as happened with Bhai Satwant,Bhai Jinda,Bhai Sukha who were responsible for killing 1 person each and that too for a reason.

Originally Posted by AusDesi

I feel sorry for that kid. She's been throughly brainwashed.

"Hum nahi darte in visphotakon se" haha I doubt She has ever seen a visphot. She would **** her pants.

Like I said, I don't support any of these stupid Sadhus and Sashvis who give up everything and do nothing but create problems. There certainly exists a "Bhagva terrorism" and I think it needs to be eradicated.

Originally Posted by kee_jaana_mein_kaun

Your flip flop on various hindutva related issues is interesting.

Recent one is in which you have written a whole essay on "Sadhvi" Rithambara and then claim you have no interest in them.

Originally Posted by AusDesi

If you didn't get what it was about then I don't need to explain it to you.



I am sure GOI will take care of it if it becomes a problem. I don't need to lose sleep over it.

Originally Posted by Soul_jyot