
11-Feb-2010, 19:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dalbirk Kee Jaana Mein Kaun Ji ,
It seems that you too have fallen for Congress Propaganda ( Spokesman , Ghagga , Kala Afghana etc ) The pseudo-secular Congress is just good at making people emotionally charged , many of the blames can be put on RSS ( BJP ,Badal ) etc but it is blindly foolish to paint all Hindus with the same brush . Hindus & Sikhs are brothers , infact most of the Hindus I know do not have any thing towards Hinduism even , they all are concerened about their personal safelty , well being only . Hindu philosophy is like this only , each one wants progress for his own self , but not by pushing others down . Except for the religionist Brahminists ( & fascist Hindu Mass Media controlled by them ) whose livlihood depends on dividing & misleading people , there is a rare Hindu who hates Sikhs . Though I agree Sonia Gandhi is thousand times better than Indira( cruel & autocrat ) & Rajeev ( the mass murderer ) maybe she no longer has the support of Brahminist Hindus & she depends wholly on minorities like Muslims , Christians , Sikhs , Secular Hindus & Dalits . | Congress,BJP,Badal dal,Communist,Janata,Samajwadi etc etc are all the same .
Translate All India Congress party to hindi,it is Akhil Bhartiya Jan Sangh which is the same as Bhartiya Jan Sangh which is the mother of BJP.
All are playing a friendly match of opposing rhetoric(only opposing speeches )just to fool the minorities.Sikhs and other minorities have been fooled like this since 1947.
It is surprising by now you have not realised who I support .I dont support any of the above parties .Many in Punjab have realised there is no use supporting any traditional parties as all have the same "bahmvandi RSS soch" so in the present political system interference in our affairs will continue .
Nothing short of freedom will be able to look after the aspirations of the Sikh and Punjabi community.If you are in Punjab then come to Fatehgarh Sahib tommorow ie 12 February,2010 and see for yourself the anger which the Sikh community has for the Indian state.
Call me desh drohi I dont care but we will use all means including International pressure to gain freedom which is our birth right
No one can stop our voice by mass arrests and torture and large scale misuse of the media.This is no longer a laughing matter.Shaheeds of a kaum lay the foundation of freedom but our shaheeds have surpassed all records ie around 2 lakhs.Each and every Amritdhari was killed from 1984 to 1994.
Indian state said "muthi bhar aatankvaadi Pakistan kee sheh per aatankvaad phailaa rahay hain" saying this they killed 2 lakh Amritdharis and their family supporters.These people had nothing to do with Pakistan. This is what is meant by bahman,bania nazi clan(bahmanvaad).Hindu word exists nowhere not even in the vedas.Also listen to which all are not included amongst them in India.The following speech was given in front of Punjabi Indian journalist Kuldeep Nayyar :
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11-Feb-2010, 19:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dalbirk Kee Jaana Mein Kaun Ji ,
It seems that you too have fallen for Congress Propaganda ( Spokesman , Ghagga , Kala Afghana etc ) The pseudo-secular Congress is just good at making people emotionally charged , many of the blames can be put on RSS ( BJP ,Badal ) etc but it is blindly foolish to paint all Hindus with the same brush . Hindus & Sikhs are brothers , infact most of the Hindus I know do not have any thing towards Hinduism even , they all are concerened about their personal safelty , well being only . Hindu philosophy is like this only , each one wants progress for his own self , but not by pushing others down . Except for the religionist Brahminists ( & fascist Hindu Mass Media controlled by them ) whose livlihood depends on dividing & misleading people , there is a rare Hindu who hates Sikhs . Though I agree Sonia Gandhi is thousand times better than Indira( cruel & autocrat ) & Rajeev ( the mass murderer ) maybe she no longer has the support of Brahminist Hindus & she depends wholly on minorities like Muslims , Christians , Sikhs , Secular Hindus & Dalits . | Just ask any hindu to say "Sant Bhindranwale Zindabad","Khalistan Zindabad" or even "Raj Karega Khalsa" openly ,you will know who hates who.Sant Bhindranwale was asking for rights of Punjab,not only Sikhs.
They force every one including Sikh childrent o say "Jai Hind" "Bharat Mata kee Jai" in every school.If they have so much regard for Sikhs then why not "Raj Karega Khalsa" ?
Nothing for Punjab can be expected from pagridhari baahmans Manmohan Singh and Badal.Please list their contributions for Punjab.
First of all India is a "Unified states of India" where states have been unified into India by force.Each corner is having tendency to seperate.Kashmir,Khalistan,whole of North East,Tamil,Naxalites.
If the bahman,bania nazi clan has so much power which they keep showing on TV then why are thousands of kms of Aksai chin are with China ?
Why are 40,000 kms of Indian territory under naxalite rule ?
Why has the butcher of Punjab KP Gill (whom the bahman bania clan calls "Super cop" for eliminating a whole generation of Amritdharis)surendered before naxalites and returned saying he cant control them ?
Just remember that it was economic factors which led to collapse of India's pal Soviet Union.Mass killings by the vedic fascists and the consequences have led to financial crisis in India. | 
11-Feb-2010, 19:59 PM
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| | | | | Re: A Pakistani Sikh exposing lies of Baahmanvaadi media The bottom line is Sikhs want to have relations with other communities based on "mutual respect"(from both sides) only.There is nothing known as "Hindu Sikh unity" or "Sikh Muslim unity" or "Hindu Muslim unity".All these are misnomers.I'll again say the day "Hindu Sikh unity" is complete Sikhism will finish ,which can never happen.We are deadly against this.This was the main reason for all the fight since 1978 but the state thought by killing 2 lakh Sikhs the problem will finish but nothing can ever be solved by killing instead of solving the problem.The new generation of Sikhs in Punjab as well abroad are much more informed and more determined than the earlier generation . Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hard-talk/29180-pakistani-sikh-exposing-lies-baahmanvaadi-media.html
Sikh's are no one's enemies but will leave no one who interferes in their religion be it Moghal,Afghan,English or now Bahmanvaad.
Interference in the religious affairs by anyone Hindu,Muslim,Christian etc is intolerable for any Sikh.
The Bahman Bania fascist clan will have to pay for this interference in Sikh affairs and for all the genocide committed since 1978 in the same way as the Moghals,Afghans had to pay earlier which culminated in the Sikh Raaj. | 
12-Feb-2010, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by kee_jaana_mein_kaun Hatred brings hatred. So stop hating Muslims by talking against them and Sikhs by interfering in our religion and claiming Sikhs are Hindus. | I don't hate muslims. That doesn't mean I should forget things that muslims have done to people of other religions. Quote: |
Do I need to repeat the story of Muslims and Jews,who are from the same descendant and sworn enemies now, once again ?
| Actually they are not. I have never come across a Jew who wanted all muslims to die. On the contrary, many muslims I knew hated the jews to the end. Muslims take it the wrong way. Its not a Jewish-Muslim problem.
There are more Jews than Israel and more Muslims than Palestine. Quote: |
It is the bahman,bania nazi rascist clan whom Im against, those who wish to finish the "nyaarapan" of the Sikhs and wish us to blindly hate any community which they hate ,for example,the muslims.
| Thats the RSS types. You assume everyone hates them like that. I mean personally for someone like me hating muslims would be pretty ironic considering I am learning to read Nastaliq so I can read Sufi poetry.
Hating two entire castes because of the actions of a few speak a lot about your personality. Quote: |
Even Guru Gobind Singh ji told a bahman "Khatri ko puut hon,bahman ko nahi" when the pandit repeatedly try to claim "you are from us" .
| I went through this quote on the net. Not everyone explains it as you do. From what I read he meant he will take up arms in a critical situation rather than praying for the best. I don't think that is offensive to Brahmins themselves. Quote:
From now onwards no one will address me as "YOU" in this forum.
Rules are equal for all forum members.
| What are people supposed to address you as. Please do tell me, My liege. | | The following member appreciates AusDesi Ji for the above message. | | 
12-Feb-2010, 08:30 AM
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| | | | | Re: A Pakistani Sikh exposing lies of Baahmanvaadi media My 4 cents:
1. Those of you who have practical working life experiences, must have noticed the difference in behaviour of a person when he/she is of same level as you and when he/ she is promoted and made your boss.( Hindu majority getting freedom and power!!).
The behaviour of an undeserving person is to show off the power and that may have happened after 1947 till now. A person truely deserving the promotion is generally humble( my idea).
My point is that all people at the time of our Gurus and during freedom struggle were simple people... like the one we have now. Some of them took action and are remembered now as hero or villians( bad people). We should judge them by practical yardstick.
It was natural for moughals to oppose us because of the influence and richness of the area under sikh influence.
Now it is natural for muslim to show affection ... may be to fight a proxy war against India. Look at bigger picture.... Will any muslim or even true christian( to some extent) ever agree to give power to sikh? Their granths strictly deny this. For muslims, we are kaafirs and for christians, Jesus is the only son of God and this son only can take you to his home. He only knows which road to take( I am not adding this.... Their church people say so). | 
12-Feb-2010, 18:14 PM
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| | | | | Re: A Pakistani Sikh exposing lies of Baahmanvaadi media Aus Desi wrote : Quote: |
I don't hate muslims. That doesn't mean I should forget things that muslims have done to people of other religions.
| Sikhs have suffered more than any community from Moghals but that doesn't mean we'll forget and start disrespecting Peer Budhu Shah ji,Saayin Mian Mir ji,Baba Farid ji,Bhagat Kabir ji. Most of Pakis claim that India is helping Pak Taliban,Balochis and in Sindh.You will not believe because your govt and media deny this. It does not mean other religions will forget what the hindutva brigades have done to them and how most hindus and GOI is directly or indirectly supporting them. Quote:
Actually they are not. I have never come across a Jew who wanted all muslims to die. On the contrary, many muslims I knew hated the jews to the end. Muslims take it the wrong way. Its not a Jewish-Muslim problem.
There are more Jews than Israel and more Muslims than Palestine. | Same is the case between Hindus and Sikhs. Quote:
Thats the RSS types. You assume everyone hates them like that. I mean personally for someone like me hating muslims would be pretty ironic considering I am learning to read Nastaliq so I can read Sufi poetry.
Hating two entire castes because of the actions of a few speak a lot about your personality.
| I assume nothing ,their own writings and actions reveal their inner side.Yes ,the same speak a lot about your personality
Quote: | Even Guru Gobind Singh ji told a bahman "Khatri ko puut hon,bahman ko nahi" when the pandit repeatedly try to claim "you are from us" . |
I went through this quote on the net. Not everyone explains it as you do. From what I read he meant he will take up arms in a critical situation rather than praying for the best. I don't think that is offensive to Brahmins themselves.
[/quote] RSS propoganda,you must have asked some mahakaal kaa Sikh.Ask any true Akaal Purkh kaa Sikh who has knowledge of Guru Granth Sahib he will explain it to you properly. Do you have more knowledge than Sant Bhindranwale who quoted this in one of his speeches.Whether any one likes him or not,he was a scholar in Sikhism. | 
12-Feb-2010, 19:02 PM
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| | | | | Re: A Pakistani Sikh exposing lies of Baahmanvaadi media Quote:
Originally Posted by kee_jaana_mein_kaun RSS propoganda,you must have asked some mahakaal kaa Sikh.Ask any true Akaal Purkh kaa Sikh who has knowledge of Guru Granth Sahib he will explain it to you properly. Do you have more knowledge than Sant Bhindranwale who quoted this in one of his speeches.Whether any one likes him or not,he was a scholar in Sikhism. | It doesn't make a difference to me either way. I am not Sikh and that Particular quote has no effect on my beliefs. | 
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