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| | | | | RSS Wants Sikhs to Make Changes in Guru Granth Sahib RSS Wants Sikhs to Make Changes in Guru Granth Sahib Register to Remove Advertisements RSS wants Sikhs to make changes in Guru Granth Sahib DIKTAT: Remove Muslim Bhagats’ Bani, Change Langar Menu, Do Not Display Sant Bhindranwale’s portrait WSN BureauReference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hard-talk/29048-rss-wants-sikhs-make-changes-guru.html http://worldsikhnews.com/27%20January%202010/RSS%20wants%20Sikhs%20to%20make%20changes%20in%20G uru%20Granth%20Sahib.htm AMRITSAR/FREMONT: It should come as no surprise, but even then is nevertheless been seen as a shocker. After persistent and shameless silence from the House of Badals, the ruling Akali Dal and the SGPC about continuing alliance with a completely brahamanical Hindutva-spouting ultra nationalist BJP-RSS, there is sudden anger over an article on the official website of the RSS that denigrates Sikhism. On its part, the RSS seems to have cast aside all pretence and shame in its efforts at assimilating the Sikhs and attacking their unique identity, but the latest instance also involved an attack on the scriptures of the Sikhs. The Sikhs are understandably angry, and the Akali Dal is understandably silent. Silent in the face of a development so provocative. Silent even after the official RSS website Sangh Parivar | Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam carried an article by one Ramakant Tiwari, a known RSS preacher, which only suggested, rather explicitly stated, that Sikhs were a part of Hinduism, but asked them to remove the bani of Muslim faqirs from Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. This is how the agenda laid out by RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat of making entire India “Sangh Mayee” is going to be unfolded. For centuries, no one had dared to make such a suggestion, and now that the official RSS says it, tells it to the whole world, the Akali Dal is silent. Prakash Singh Badal has not uttered a word, and Sukhbir Singh Badal has long stopped engaging with panthic affairs. So their alliance partner heaps insults on Sikhs, propagate myths that are highly provocative, derogatory and objectionable. By any stretch of imagination, the writer and the website managers should have been immediately booked under section 295 A for spreading enmity between communities and hurting sentiments of Sikhs but we have not seen a demand being made by any Akali leader. True that the Akal Takht Jathedar Giani Gurbachan Singh has warned the RSS off Sikh affairs and the Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee, Dal Khalsa and Sikh Panthic Council have condemned the derogatory remarks, but is it enough? Sikh sangat worldwide is wondering why the Badals remain silent even when official RSS website carries postings that describe Sri Harmandar Sahib as a “Shivalya”. And he presumably wrote the article after a visit to the Golden Temple! Read the way Tiwari went on to ridicule the concept of distinct identity of Sikhs. “Your roots are in Hinduism. Your holy hymns are all about Ram, Govinda and Shiva. Then, how could you think of surviving or flourishing without Hindus?” it reads. True, very true. How can the Sikhs even think of, mind the word Tiwari uses, “surviving” without Hindus? Read between the lines: Sikhs have no right to even think about surviving in a Hindu country. Not at least if they thought they are outside the pale of Hinduism. This is the kind of thought process being inculcated among thousands and thousands of young children in India in the morning RSS shakhas where five year olds are made to sing songs about Mandir Vahin Banana Hai with fists clenched. True, very true. How can the Sikhs even think of, mind the word Tiwari uses, “surviving” without Hindus? Read between the lines: Sikhs have no right to even think about surviving in a Hindu country. Provocations were galore in the article that this so called social organization of radical Hindutva, the RSS, carried. Here is what it wants you to do in your langar kitchen that serve food to the sangat without any discrimination of religion, race, creed, gender or caste: it wants to change the menu to conform to puritan orthodox forms of Hindutva with similar dogma. Terming onion and garlic as “impure” foods, the RSS website article raises objections to their use in the `langar' served at Harmandar Sahib. So much so that it even wants to decide whose portrait the Sikhs should be putting up at their museum. Attacking the SikhMuseum on the precincts of Harmandar Sahib, the article raises objections to venerating Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale and Beant Singh, Satwant Singh and Kehar Singh who avenged Operation Bluestar. In a reaction that can be termed as suitably meek to conform to the policy of his bosses Badals, SGPC president Avtar Singh Makkar merely demanded that the article be removed and the RSS tender an apology. No apology came, and Mohan Bhagwat remains steadfast on his goal of turning India into a “Sangh Mayee” country, goes around saying that Sikhs are Hindus, and wants everyone in India to proclaim his nationality as Hindu, but Makkar is satisfied with a mere statement, and that too, once.Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29048
The Dal Khalsa leaders asked the SAD head, Akal Takht jathedar and SGPC president to explain their position over the RSS stand towards Sikhs but so far there has been no response. None, as we say on the pain of repetition, was expected since these are the people that “We condemn the SAD, SGPC and Sant Samaj for lending credence to RSS theory that Sikhs were part of Hindu religion by mixing Nanakshahi with Bikrami calendar,” said the leaders. The SGPC also demanded an unconditional apology from Tiwari for using “derogatory, provocative language against Sikhs and Sikhs principles”. In a statement, SGPC head Avtar Singh Makkar said: “The RSS is trying to hit at Sikhs, which is unfortunate.” This article was forwarded for posting by forum mentor Mai Harinder Kaur ji. :happykaur:
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28-Jan-2010, 09:53 AM
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| | | | | re: RSS Wants Sikhs to Make Changes in Guru Granth Sahib It is really deplorable that sikhism is infringed upon by the staunch Hindu establishments like RSS. BJP is only the mouth organ; It is the brain of RSS that is always thinking of something mischievous like these. More deplorable is the ineffectiveness of law as there is no identifiable personality against whom one can initiate the proceedings.Even if these are proceeded against the matter get stalled half-way after the eye wash is over. If RSS is at fault, sikhs community/panth is also to be blamed for their reticence or taciturnity and placidity.
Had it been against some Muslims set up, we would have seen world wide repercussions in the form of threats of attacks world -wide and issuances of fatwas.
This type of feeling is conspicuously absent in sikhs/sikh establishments. Unless there is a strong surge against these kinds of doings we are only giving open invitation for further actions and nuisance that will be served in platters on the face of sikhs.It makes me believe that sikhs are just a closed community who are engrossed in their own affairs.It is the intrinsic character of sikhs as well that is to be blamed equally including me.We need strong ambassadors to make the sikhs point to be seen all along the globe. No pretense should be enough for inaction or dormant actions. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29048Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29048
Very Many thanks Respected Narayanjot Kaur ji for bringing this to the notice of the sangat.Some day someone will definitely look into these unfortunate mishaps against sikhi. | | The following members appreciate Taranjeet singh Ji for the above message. | | 
28-Jan-2010, 10:08 AM
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| | | | | re: RSS Wants Sikhs to Make Changes in Guru Granth Sahib Twinkle ji Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29048
For the record -- it was Mai Harinder Kaur who called this article to my attention. But a question that lingers.
What would be required for sangats to organize effectively so that these attacks subside? | 
28-Jan-2010, 10:17 AM
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| | | | | re: RSS Wants Sikhs to Make Changes in Guru Granth Sahib Quote:
Originally Posted by twinkle It is really deplorable that sikhism is infringed upon by the staunch Hindu establishments like RSS. BJP is only the mouth organ; It is the brain of RSS that is always thinking of something mischievous like these. More deplorable is the ineffectiveness of law as there is no identifiable personality against whom one can initiate the proceedings.Even if these are proceeded against the matter get stalled half-way after the eye wash is over. If RSS is at fault, sikhs community/panth is also to be blamed for their reticence or taciturnity and placidity.
Had it been against some Muslims set up, we would have seen world wide repercussions in the form of threats of attacks world -wide and issuances of fatwas.
This type of feeling is conspicuously absent in sikhs/sikh establishments. Unless there is a strong surge against these kinds of doings we are only giving open invitation for further actions and nuisance that will be served in platters on the face of sikhs.It makes me believe that sikhs are just a closed community who are engrossed in their own affairs.It is the intrinsic character of sikhs as well that is to be blamed equally including me.We need strong ambassadors to make the sikhs point to be seen all along the globe. No pretense should be enough for inaction or dormant actions.
Very Many thanks Respected Narayanjot Kaur ji for bringing this to the notice of the sangat.Some day someone will definitely look into these unfortunate mishaps against sikhi. | We need to be quite measured how we respond to this as a community. Yesterday al Queda announced that they were going to start disguising suicide bombers as Sikhs. The last thing we need right now is to present ourselves as violent or terroristic. (Personally, I's enjoy doing some violence to these, er, people, but I dare not indulge myself in this.)
Violence would do immeasurable harm to us. And we don't issue fatwas.
So what should our response be? It need to be strong and united. Can we quit arguing about Dasan Granth for a while. OUR GURU IS UNDER DIRECT ATTACK!!! Right now we need to react as one unit. Let us unite as one family. | | The following members appreciate Mai Harinder Kaur Ji for the above message. | | 
28-Jan-2010, 10:31 AM
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| | | | | re: RSS Wants Sikhs to Make Changes in Guru Granth Sahib In my opinion, this is a good discussion topic. Because there are steps to take and they can be taken within the framework of the law in all countries that are affected. Please keep on talking. | 
28-Jan-2010, 11:47 AM
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| | | | | re: RSS Wants Sikhs to Make Changes in Guru Granth Sahib Sadh Sangat,
Guru fateh.
Finally, we have the needed wake up call from the RSS. Come to think of it, we should thank them for keeping the alarm clock that has helped us to wake up. It was about time.
Now, as we have been awakened by the RSS with their demand to change the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, our only Guru, change the Langar to their own palate, both of which are based on ignorance of the knowledge of Gurbani and the medicinal benefits of eating onions and garlic, the only response is to read, understand and practice Gurbani so that our actions and deeds can show what sharing goodness is all about no matter how many arrows of disdain and hatred are thrown towards us. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29048
This wake up call is the reminder to all of us about the real significance of celebrating the sacrifices of our Gurus and other Sikhs that came after them for all humanity, but also to celebrate humanity itself by helping the needy. The latest example is of the United Sikhs doing a commendable job in Haiti. If I am not mistaken, this is the only charity offering hot meals on their own. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29048
Although it is a wonderful thing for a common Sikh to wake up and stop being a parrot of Gurbani but its doer, who is going to wake up the sleepwalkers who hold the power?
As they say," It is easy to wake up the one who is asleep but almost impossible to wake the sleepwalker up".
So, our duty as the Sikhs in diaspora is to wake the sleepwalkers up, by hook or by crook.
Any suggestion?
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28-Jan-2010, 21:23 PM
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| | | | | re: RSS Wants Sikhs to Make Changes in Guru Granth Sahib This is continuing from the same article from the Tiwari guy. The article was wrong on so many accounts. e.g. most hindus themselves don't care about the garlic-onion thing. Its only used by some brahmin castes. | 
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| | | | | re: RSS Wants Sikhs to Make Changes in Guru Granth Sahib Aus Desi ji
Most Hindus may not care about onions and garlic, but some politically inspired Hindus and Sikhs are taking advantage of an ongoing situation in Punjab. In the article we are reading about one more assault on Sikhism.
The context for both articles may not be clear to you as there is a background in Punjabi politics, history, and economics going back to about 1999. The context is not connected to any population of Hindus, or to Hindus in general. It is connected to something else.
The RSS represents a perspective - Hindutsva - that most Hindus themselves find obnoxious and have no time for. If you follow the controversies regarding the Dasam Granth, Professor Darshan Singh, the Nanakashai calendar, favoritism paid by the BADAL government to dera and sect heads to the extent of breaking the law, and a number of other stories, there is a connecting thread.
The Badal controlled SGPC has backed down on standing up for core Sikh values in a number of controversies. They have done this to curry the favor and votes of religious groups affiliated with BJP and RSS on the orders of Badal. These are the sant samaj/saffron interest groups who are loaded with cash. RSS has now become emboldened to make statements like "away with onions and garlic" and "alter your one universal Granth Guru." Likewise, less than a month ago a derawale Guru was emboldened to say that our Gurus were descended from Luv and Kush, giving the SGPC as his authority on this matter. A days-long disturbance was ignited by his comments, in which one person died at the hands of the police. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29048
The pictures connected to the original article - we did not upload all of them - tell the whole story. The Sikh religion and assaults on Sikh identity are once again falling victim to broader political interests. That is the reason for the uproar. I predict you will be reading more articles like this as the saffron brigade encourages political operatives to do further political violence to our religion. | | The following members appreciate Narayanjot Kaur Ji for the above message. | | 
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| | | | | re: RSS Wants Sikhs to Make Changes in Guru Granth Sahib "Onion and garlic" impure foods?
Hmm let me think.
When Guru Angad dev ji served langaar, there was actually meat on the menu, and this menu was changed to accommodate Vaishnavs. So today there is only a vegetarian langaar. Looks like these Vaishnavs want their own way totally.
What next? Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29048Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29048
Women doing sewa impure?
Untouchables impure? | | The following members appreciate Randip Singh Ji for the above message. | | 
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