Bmandur Ji,
The CD is difficult to get hold of in UK but there is all the information now available. You have presented a worrying view of the problem no doubt there is a worry but what solution do you offer?
I know Sikhs are 1-2% of Indian population and cant play a numbers game. The teachings in Sikhi and Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji are second to none and hurts no one. There are even Hindus who have read and agreed with it rather than Hindu Scriptures. I am not degrading any Scriptures but the Hindu Scriptures are too many, with too many beliefs some contradictory no clear direction and I find Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is the easier way to sift the necessary from Hindu and Islam religions. (GS Sidhu has written a book on the differences Sikh Religion and Hinduism)
In my opinion the way it has to be tackled is two fold:
Create at least one Sikh University outside of India (UK, Canada or USA etc.) to produce Khalse protectors of Sikhi and its teaching and Scriptures. They should have departments of comparative religion studies and verification of the documents under dispute. They should also provide means of educating ordinary Sikhs to a level that can allow them to be able to tell when distortions to Sikhi are being fed down their throat. A mass media (TV station?) communication to share with Punjab all Sikh issues (lack of this has led to the problems faced today) should possibly be a part of this institution.
All Sikhs made aware of the message that only way to protect the Gift of our Gurus and their Sacrifices is to pay back by embracing Gursikhi and approach Khalsahood.
There is a mountain of issues on Sikh plate. In UK there are three Sikh channels and they are coming up to speed fast. However as majority of people here and in Punjab have been insulated from the knowledge of destruction of Sikhs and Sikhi it can be too much to cope with all that in short period of time.
These issues need prioritising and necessary documentation provided and means of distributing and correspondence developed.
Davinder Dhanjal ji,
You are right on some point.
#1)Create at least one Sikh University outside of India (UK, Canada or USA etc.) to produce Khalse protectors of Sikhi and its teaching and Scriptures.
But first we have to work the ROOTS. Roots are our youths.
We are trying our best to show or share our Sikh History through Guru Gobind Singh Study Circle Canada's it's three day evening camp but we called asGurmat Crash courses on our Sikh history on Multimedia.
University's are good out side of India but we have to learned & understand the basic first.
As you mention In Punjab and 101% agreed with you.
Any TV Station or Radio station, how long they will put an effort at the end it is all comercial progran & they have to what is best for there channel's
same thing at the Gurudwara's what effort they are putting towards Sikhi
All they care out how much money is coming, how to fight, whom to banned
who will get the power. No Sikhi is in there mind.
So at the end I will say we have to stand together &work how save our ROOTs if we can
Bhul Chul Maaf
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Dasam Granth Sahib is not new to the present day sangat. It's been here since long time from the elders and prime example Bh mani singh ji. If any change is required or something is not right it, It should come from a Brahm Giani not a teacher or preacher like Prof: Darshan Singh. If he proves that he will not cry if he is put on hot plate or cut buy a saw, I will take his words otherwise he should just do his kirtal from Sri Guru Granth Sahib as well as from Sri Dasam Granth Sahib. If he doesn’t agree with Sri Dasam Granth Sahib he should keep on doing kirtan just from Sri Guru Granth Sahib.Regarding Sri Dasam Granth Sahib, keep his mouth shut and don't heart the Sangat who totally believe in Sri Dasam Granth Sahib.
I do not Support your thoughts some one hacked in to my loging to support your thought so I am taking it back.
I Do not support your Thoughts. I do belive in Prof Darshan Singh Khalsa and he is the only one who can stand and doing so.
Bhul Chul Maaf
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Breed Calling others Clown, It shows what value you have in your life. Sikhs are always open for discussion some you do not like lets talk calling by names doesn’t make you better than anyone else. Thank you
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Its NOT "words"..its the ACTIONS that makes one a Clown...and actions speak louder than words. Clowns get laughed at.....not "attacked"....has any CLOWN been "attacked" ?? To my knowledge..none...but WARRIORS do get attacked..and they know how to defend themselves..as Prof darshan Singh Khalsa did. The Prof is a warrior equal to the likes of Baba deep Singh Shaheed, Bhai mani Singh Shaheed...and he has stood the TEST very well as the Continuing support from sangats worldwide show...while the clowns have been BOOED out ( one even left his Sri Sahib behind on the Table in South hall london recently )and the other supreme clown from parmeshar dwaar is not even worth the paper his advert is printed on.....
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Darshan is to being a warrior as a fish is to riding a bike !
He uses the title PROFESSOR, yet he is not a professor, at best basic education.
He is a liar and he misleads, and the fools that follow him will go to the same very dark place that he will go to.
ਕਿਤੈਨਸੰਤੋਖੀਅਹਿਅੰਤਰਿਤਿਸਨਾਬਹੁਅਗਿਆਨੁਅੰਧ੍ਯ੍ਯਾਰੁ॥ Ḏiṯai kiṯai na sanṯokẖī▫ah anṯar ṯisnā baho agi▫ān anḏẖ▫yār. No matter what they are given, they are not satisfied; within their hearts there is great desire, ignorance and darkness
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Sorry to be disappointed and nag in to your posts. Do you know meaning of Professor I guess NO It shows in your few lines who is the foolish one. If you have any anger in side you Breed, Do some Path Simran, Sewa, Basic three things in Sikhism by Guru Nanak dev ji Naam Japu Kirat Karo Vaand shako If you follows three things in your life, I can promise you , you will forget about The words Clown, Fools & Liar.
Many thanks for your illuminating words Uniqsha. I will try to contemplate them and follow the three things in sikhism by Guru Nanak Dev Ji. Gee I never knew them.
But that does not alter the fact that the man is a clown and an embarrassment. He has rudimentary knowledge of Sikh history and gurbani, how this charlatan had gotten away with it for so long is beyond comrehension. And so many fools follow him... tut tut tut.
This is the same man who has done kirtan and viakhia of gurbani but now when it is pointed out to him that this is the katha he used to do he cries to Youtube to remove videos of him doing katha by saying it is breaching copyright. You cannot hide the truth my friends.
This is the ex-jathedar of Akaal Takhat (now an ex-sikh and all those who support and keep contact with him are breaking the hukamnama) who knows the protocol of the office he held. Yet when summoned by the jathedar he went ego filled with great pomp and ceremony with supporters and parked himself outside the offices. His ego would not let him in, he wanted the jathedar of the Akaal Takhat to come to HIM, rather than in humility present himself to the jathedar. Not the actions of a pious ragi that he wants all to believe he is. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hard-talk/27495-controversy-surrounding-prof-darshan-singh-ji.html Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=27495 This is the man who ordered a Singh to be tied to a post as punishment but he himself could not present himself to the same office. Shame on all you who support him, since you do not follow the hukamnama issued from Akaal Takhat you should not consider yourself Sikhs at all.
We as persons have no right to condem or applaud the credentials of any individual.We should always look the contribution of the person to the community.We would find that his contribution is exemplary in the present state of affairs. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=27495 Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=27495
Views do change when anyone is enlightened to higher wisdom than earlier.We should try to appreciate so long as his views are logically correct and helpful in eliminating the ignorance of persons at large.
I have personally read many of his contributions related to various matters.His contribution is just meticulous which is the reflection of the real grace of GURU.
There is no harm in acknowledging this fact concerning Pro Darshan Singh Ji.
We should always keep in mind the following Quote from Grbaani
"NINDAA BHALEE KISE KI NAHIN MANMUKH MUGADH KARANi"
Prakash.s.Bagga
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Breeb ji You need to get your facts straight. And you need to observe TOS, debate issues not personalities, no ad hominem attacks, no personal attacks. Some of what you are saying actually exposes SPN to legal action for slander, and that has been deleted now. This is your second warning. I do not intend to close another thread because you have visited and begun a program of undermining decent debate. spnadmin. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=27495
In a few minutes you will receive an official infraction, because this is the 4th thread at SPN where you have carried on as you do.
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