Sunny Leone Should Be Excommunicated?

Gyani Jarnail Singh · #64 (**permalink**) 09-Jul-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh martin

PUnjabi star in pent house? cool
Shouldn't we be cheering up for her? she made it

made it ?? where ?

Randip Singh · #65 (**permalink**) 09-Jul-2009, 22:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh martin

PUnjabi star in pent house? cool
Shouldn't we be cheering up for her? she made it

I don't think encouragement of Kaam or luring over women and seeing them as objects of sexual desire is anything to cheers about.

I would say she didn't make it, but destroyed it!

Josh martin · #66 (**permalink**) 10-Jul-2009, 06:51 AM

Made it to her goal? Hollywood/penthouse success rates are in low%. Maybe that was her dream.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hard-talk/25591-sunny-leone-should-be-excommunicated.html

Randip ji,

Maybe ur right

CaramelChocolate · #67 (**permalink**) 28-Feb-2011, 21:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Gyani Jarnail Singh

Aad Ji..BAJJAR KUREHIT is a major infarction....
one of FOUR...
1. Dishonouring the KESH
2. Consumption of TOBACCO and other dugs/intoxicants
3. Consumption of Halal Meat
4.SEX OUTSIDE MARRIAGE

ANY one or combination..makes one an APOSTATE..requiring appearance before the PANJ, confession, and the Panj will then dish out a Penance..like so many Japji sahib paaths/community service/ etc...and then READMINISTER Khandey dee Pahul once more to readmit the apostate. He she will not be publicly humiliated/made known.

If the following were good enough for the Gurus to contribute to the Guru Granth Sahib, then why do Sikhs take such a strong stance against hair cutters? :

Kabir, Namdev, Ravidas, Sheikh Farid, Trilochan, Dhanna, Beni, Sheikh Bhikan, Jaidev, Surdas, Parmanand, Pipa, Ramanand

Sadhna: 1 hymn A butcher by profession, Bhagat Sadhana was born in Sind. His piety and meditation of God elevated him to saintly status. He was condemned by Brahmins and on a false charge was arrested and buried alive.
Sain: 1 hymn Bhagat Sain was a barber of the royal court of Raja Ram, king of Rewa. He was a follower of Bhagat Ramanand and Bhagat Kabir.

The Bhatts
Kal, Kalsahar, Tal, Jalap, Jal, Kirat, Sal, Bhal, Nal, Bhikha, Jalan, Das, Gayand, Sewak, Mathura, Bal, Harbans

Personally I would agree with a more basic definition of a Sikh - one who strives for God. I agree that in the greater scheme of things prostitution is WRONG and if one is searching for God, one would abandon this, in the same way that cutting the hair is about physical appearance and changing onself from the way we are made... but for goodness sake... who is to say what is in a person's heart? Why is their SUCH A BIG emphasis on APPEARANCE?

One can appear like the holiest person in the world, and still have a DIRTY HEART!

ਬੰਕੇ ਬਾਲ ਪਾਗ ਸਿਰਿ ਡੇਰੀ ॥
You make your hair beautiful, and wear a stylish turban on your head.
ਇਹੁ ਤਨੁ ਹੋਇਗੋ ਭਸਮ ਕੀ ਢੇਰੀ ॥੩॥
But in the end, this body shall be reduced to a pile of ashes. ||3|| - 659

ਮਨ ਰੇ ਨਿਜ ਘਰਿ ਵਾਸਾ ਹੋਇ ॥
O mind, dwell in the balanced state of your own inner being.
ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮੁ ਸਾਲਾਹਿ ਤੂ ਫਿਰਿ ਆਵਣ ਜਾਣੁ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
Praise the Lord's Name, and you shall no longer come and go in reincarnation. ||1||Pause|| - 1477

spnadmin · #68 (**permalink**) 28-Feb-2011, 22:02 PM

CaramelChocolate ji

Please post the entire shabad and not one or two tuks so that full meaning of the tuk can be appraised. This is a forum rule, and has been for several years. Thank you, spnadmin.

Seeker9 · #69 (**permalink**) 02-Mar-2011, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Randip Singh

I think that's the point, we are not in a position to judge, but she shouldn't really judge the faith either. See the statement she made about other women finding God and leaving the industry.

Also we seem to excommunicate people from Sikhism like Inder Singh Ghagga and others, yet people like this are not looked at. I find the whole dea of excommunication ridiculous.

Well said

Who appointed anyone judge to excommunicate someone else?

But its ultimately pointless...what does it achieve?

Are we saying there are no sinners following Sikhism? Or is it the nature of the sin and the profile of the sinner that is stirring up so much interest?

Why on such a fine forum like this are we giving time to pornstars??

Shanger · #70 (**permalink**) 08-Mar-2011, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Randip Singh

Hi All,

I had an e-mail from a friend who edits on wikipedia, on an account I used to have. He has come up against this article:

Sunny Leone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He is trying to add in that Sunny Leone is not a practising Sikh, but there are a couple of editor there who I guess specialise in pornography who wish to delete what he wishes to add probably because they wish to publicise she is a Sikh for Sales.

In any case, shouldn't people like this be excommunicated formaly from Sikhi rather than people like Kala Afghana? I mean, Ok, if she wants to be a pornstar, that is fine, but why is she claiming to be a Sikh? Has she taken Amrit? does she wear the 5k's? At best she is an apostate Sikh?

Any views?

If she considers herself to be sikh and believes in the teachings (as in believes tht there is a god and the gurus were true etc) can she not call herself a sikh?

im just saying that because, imagine a guy who cuts his hair, not taken amrit, but still goes gurdwara etc. many ppl will call tht guy a sikh right?

ur probably thinking leone cant be sikh cos she does porn which is breaking the rule about lust (1 of the 5 evils i think), but where do we draw the line? cos every human has imperfections and falls victim to them right?

e.g. many sikh guys will have a bmw/mercedes, when they could get around with a much cheaper car, and donate the rest of the money to charity. breaking the greed thing. (maybe thts a bad example but im just saying we all somehow break one of the 5 evils so who draws the line)

spnadmin · #71 (**permalink**) 08-Mar-2011, 10:05 AM

Shanger ji

You have quoted a very early comment by Randip Singh ji which in context was intended to get a conversation started in what is now a very stale thread. He was raising issues. Did you manage to notice one of his more recent comments.

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Originally Posted by Randip Singh
I think that's the point, we are not in a position to judge, but she shouldn't really judge the faith either. See the statement she made about other women finding God and leaving the industry.

Also we seem to excommunicate people from Sikhism like Inder Singh Ghagga and others, yet people like this are not looked at. I find the whole dea of excommunication ridiculous.

Quite different.

I am also really grateful that forum members are "chilling" on your comments here and in other threads

Shanger · #72 (**permalink**) 08-Mar-2011, 21:39 PM

I only read the 1st page to be honest, but if that is Randip's view then I agree.