Sehajdhari Sikhs

Kuls1980 · #1 (**permalink**) 10-Mar-2009, 19:56 PM

Guru fathay
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hard-talk/24187-sehajdhari-sikhs.html
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=24187

Can someone please shed some light on this subject? I have read many articles on the net and still don’t understand, What stand is on this subject. And what has SGPC done to change this?
I'm a mona Sikh, but regarding to some articles, SGPC have announced, any one who has cut hair and so on, is not a Sikh. Is this true?

Please forgive me if I have upset any one.

Fathey

kds1980 · #2 (**permalink**) 10-Mar-2009, 20:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuls1980

Guru fathay

Can someone please shed some light on this subject? I have read many articles on the net and still don’t understand, What stand is on this subject. And what has SGPC done to change this?
I'm a mona Sikh, but regarding to some articles, SGPC have announced, any one who has cut hair and so on, is not a Sikh. Is this true?

Please forgive me if I have upset any one.

Fathey

SGPC Run some colleges in which it reserve some seats for sikh students.Recently some students who used to cut their hair went to court and said that they are sehajdhari sikhs
so they are eligible for reservation.Punjab and Haryana High court then asked SGPC about the defination of sikh.At first they submitted affidavit with some provision for sehajdhari sikhs but later many sikh bodies came and forced them to change affidavit.So Now according to SGPC only Keshdhari sikhs are eligible for reservation.BTW there is no change in definatiion of sikh according to Rehat maryada

The Sikh Rehat Maryada Section One | Gateway to Sikhism | Gateway to Sikhism
Chapter I
The Definition of Sikh
Ariticle 1
Any human being who faithfully believes in
(i) One Immortal Being,
(ii) Ten Gurus, from Guru Nanak Dev to Guru Gobind Singh,
(iii) The Guru Granth Sahib,
(iv) The utterances and teachings of the ten Gurus and
(v) the baptism bequeathed by the tenth Guru, and who does not owe allegiance to any other religion, is a Sikh.

Kuls1980 · #3 (**permalink**) 10-Mar-2009, 20:31 PM

The Sikh Rehat Maryada Section One | Gateway to Sikhism | Gateway to Sikhism
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=24187
Chapter I
The Definition of Sikh
Ariticle 1
Any human being who faithfully believes in
(i) One Immortal Being,
(ii) Ten Gurus, from Guru Nanak Dev to Guru Gobind Singh,
(iii) The Guru Granth Sahib,
(iv) The utterances and teachings of the ten Gurus and
(v) the baptism bequeathed by the tenth Guru, and who does not owe allegiance to any other religion, is a Sikh.

So you are saying to be a Sikh you have to follow these 6 steps. Hahaha
Wow, what has become of this faith. The gift Guru Nanak dev ji gave to the world is know in these 6 steps. Brother, if it was that easy to become a Sikh, the Sikh nation would be a nation of saints.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=24187
Sorry for being sarcastic. Sorry to ask another question, where does this rehat maryada come from. I have not read any where in the GGS about these rehat maryada, if that is not the case then you are contradicting yourself on rule no 3 on the list, aren't you?

Tejwant Singh · #4 (**permalink**) 10-Mar-2009, 21:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuls1980

Guru fathay

Can someone please shed some light on this subject? I have read many articles on the net and still don’t understand, What stand is on this subject. And what has SGPC done to change this?
I'm a mona Sikh, but regarding to some articles, SGPC have announced, any one who has cut hair and so on, is not a Sikh. Is this true?

Please forgive me if I have upset any one.

Fathey

Kuls ji

Guru Fateh.

Let us leave SGPC on one side at the moment.

Could please respond the following by filling in the blanks?

I am a mona Sikh because_______________________________________.

It is good to be a mona Sikh because _______________________________.

And then we can get into constructive interaction about what Sikhi is all about.

Thanks & regards

Tejwant Singh

kds1980 · #5 (**permalink**) 10-Mar-2009, 21:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuls1980

The Sikh Rehat Maryada Section One | Gateway to Sikhism | Gateway to Sikhism
Chapter I
The Definition of Sikh
Ariticle 1
Any human being who faithfully believes in
(i) One Immortal Being,
(ii) Ten Gurus, from Guru Nanak Dev to Guru Gobind Singh,
(iii) The Guru Granth Sahib,
(iv) The utterances and teachings of the ten Gurus and
(v) the baptism bequeathed by the tenth Guru, and who does not owe allegiance to any other religion, is a Sikh.

So you are saying to be a Sikh you have to follow these 6 steps. Hahaha
Wow, what has become of this faith. The gift Guru Nanak dev ji gave to the world is know in these 6 steps. Brother, if it was that easy to become a Sikh, the Sikh nation would be a nation of saints.
Sorry for being sarcastic. Sorry to ask another question, where does this rehat maryada come from. I have not read any where in the GGS about these rehat maryada, if that is not the case then you are contradicting yourself on rule no 3 on the list, aren't you?

First Try to understand what others are saying then comment.Here I am not saying anything I was just giving you information.I am not the writer of sikh rehat maryada neither
I am any sikh scholar.Here is the thread about the who made the rehat maryada
http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sik...e-conduct.html

If you find anything contradictory in sikhism Go and find some sikh scholar and debate with him/her

Kuls1980 · #6 (**permalink**) 10-Mar-2009, 21:45 PM

Dear Tejwant Singh

Why do you want know, Why i am a mona Sikh and why is it good being a mona Sikh? What do you want me to say? Brother, if you are going to tell me about, this is the only way to become a Sikh and this is our ID. Well that’s your way. You cannot stop me from loving my Guru, the Guru doesn’t belong to you or all the Sikhs in the world. The guru belongs to the universe; the truth belongs to the universe.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=24187
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=24187

So a question to you, Am I a Sikh?

Fathay

Kuls1980 · #7 (**permalink**) 10-Mar-2009, 21:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kds1980

First Try to understand what others are saying then comment.Here I am not saying anything I was just giving you information.I am not the writer of sikh rehat maryada neither
I am any sikh scholar.Here is the thread about the who made the rehat maryada
http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sik...e-conduct.html

If you find anything contradictory in sikhism Go and find some sikh scholar and debate with him/her

Mate, what are you trying to tell me that I need to understand? It’s not exactly rocket science that you have written. I not having a debate with you, I asked you about SGPC and the issues regarding sajdhari sikh and you give a passage from the rehayat mryada.
So who really started this, you or I ? hahah.

Mate, you really need to take that chill pill.

kds1980 · #8 (**permalink**) 10-Mar-2009, 22:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuls1980

Mate, what are you trying to tell me that I need to understand? It’s not exactly rocket science that you have written. I not having a debate with you, I asked you about SGPC and the issues regarding sajdhari sikh and you give a passage from the rehayat mryada.
So who really started this, you or I ? hahah.

Mate, you really need to take that chill pill.

Then why are you asking me question about rehat maryada.Am I the writer OF Rehat maryada? Neither I said That those who don't follow Rehat are not sikhs.The fact is You just want to make mockery of rehat maryada.BTW I have shown you the thread in which all information of Rehat maryada is given but your quick reply showed me you are not at all interested in reading that thread.

kds1980 · #9 (**permalink**) 10-Mar-2009, 22:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuls1980

Dear Tejwant Singh

Why do you want know, Why i am a mona Sikh and why is it good being a mona Sikh? What do you want me to say? Brother, if you are going to tell me about, this is the only way to become a Sikh and this is our ID. Well that’s your way. You cannot stop me from loving my Guru, the Guru doesn’t belong to you or all the Sikhs in the world. The guru belongs to the universe; the truth belongs to the universe.

So a question to you, Am I a Sikh?

Fathay

Is there anybody here who said you are not sikh?
Is there anybody here who is stopping you from loving Guru?