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I am always thinking to get the Turban back in fashion in India . The Kara has suceeded in fashion ...Many ideas pop up....can we have requests made at local Gurdwaras to request the sahajdhari sangat turn up wearing Turbans on Sundays when Sangats come in large numbers ?
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Can we celebrate Turban day on Baisakhi..the day our Beloved Khalsa ji was established...?

The recent issue on the Singh is King movie dampened the idea ...however i thought to share this with our Sikh Philosophy Sangat....

Is this considered Beadbi ???

Well for me ....the best and most respected Head Gear in India is the Turban...if you watch any old english movies ...you will notice that Indians are all shown with Turbans ...

I also came across this info when i was listening to Gyani Maskeenji...Gyaniji stated that the earliest account of the importance of the Turban is..when Sudama a friend of Shri Krishanji visited Him...Sudama ji was poor therefore he was a torn attire..when he met Shri Krishan ji ...Krishanji covered his head with a Turban ...

Gyan Maskeen ji by giving this example stated that ..although Sudama ji's clothes were torn..Shri Krishan ji gave instant importance to the Turban...since he was 'nange seer' or head uncovered....
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I request Sangatji to advice me on this

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re: Is It 'Beadbi" If A Clean-Shaven Guy Wears A Pag (Turban Worn Sikh-Style)?

Raj Khalsa ji

You are making some interesting statements -- many of them I agree with. But I am a little confused Please elaborate more on where your concern for Beadbi comes in. The thread title is sending us in one direction; and your comments are leading in another. So I need to hear more of your thinking on this.
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Re: Is It 'Beadbi' If A Clean-Shaven Guy Wears A Pag (Turban Worn Sikh-Style)?

whoooooo...i m sorry if i got you confused We have a dirty dozen in Punjab who created a ruckus over a actor who was shaved ..wearing a Turban in the movie..they considered this 'Beadbi'...The main objection raised was that the film promos showed Akshay Kumar's character sporting a trimmed beard, which some orthodox Sikhs found offensive Singh is Kinng screening disrupted in Amritsar- Entertainment-Media / Entertainment -News By Industry-News-The Economic Times
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Above : Akshay kumar with trimmed beard ; Below: The Protest

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Re: Is It 'Beadbi' If A Clean-Shaven Guy Wears A Pag (Turban Worn Sikh-Style)?

What ideally things should be is a different issue...but if the actor wasnt suppose to trim..were these guys suppose to destroy property ? and among our Sikhs ..dont we have all shades of people ...you can get the best alcoholics in Punjab..bearded or shaved ...Punjab does have an alcohol problem...
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Re: Is It 'Beadbi' If A Clean-Shaven Guy Wears A Pag (Turban Worn Sikh-Style)?

rajkhalsa ji

Thank you for the elaboration. Yes, I knew about the problem with this actor Mr. Kumar having a trimmed beard, but acting in the role of a Sikh, who comes to his senses and becomes a hero. Forum moderator Randip ji had I believe something to say about this commotion. Once someone told me as a joke: If you are standing in a garage, that does not make you an automobile. If you are wearing a beard and turban, that does not make you a Sikh. The question is a constant issue -- and one where my opinion is not always welcome. Bana, some say, is an outer covering that changes you inwardly, purifies you within. Here we have some pictures that suggest that such is not always the case.

Having said this: When I see a man with a beard and turban -- then I think, he must be a Sikh. It is a comforting sight. No question. When I see someone with a kara, but no turban, perhaps a trimmed beard or no beard, I still think, he must be a Sikh. And it is a comforting sight. But it is devotion to the Satguru that purifies from within. Don't hold your breath though waiting for the world to change! You will die first. There will always be people who believe that they are the only ones who have it right. Nothing you can do about it.

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Re: Is It 'Beadbi' If A Clean-Shaven Guy Wears A Pag (Turban Worn Sikh-Style)?

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whoooooo...i m sorry if i got you confused We have a dirty dozen in Punjab who created a ruckus over a actor who was shaved ..wearing a Turban in the movie..they considered this 'Beadbi'...The main objection raised was that the film promos showed Akshay Kumar's character sporting a trimmed beard, which some orthodox Sikhs found offensive Singh is Kinng screening disrupted in Amritsar- Entertainment-Media / Entertainment -News By Industry-News-The Economic Times






Above : Akshay kumar with trimmed beard ; Below: The Protest


The sikhs that protested against singh is king were stupids.Last Year there was a Film Jab we met that portrayed sikh girl in worst manner.But surpisingly there was not even a word from Any sikh or sikh organisation
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whoooooo...i m sorry if i got you confused We have a dirty dozen in Punjab who created a ruckus over a actor who was shaved ..wearing a Turban in the movie..they considered this 'Beadbi'...The main objection raised was that the film promos showed Akshay Kumar's character sporting a trimmed beard, which some orthodox Sikhs found offensive Singh is Kinng screening disrupted in Amritsar- Entertainment-Media / Entertainment -News By Industry-News-The Economic Times






Above : Akshay kumar with trimmed beard ; Below: The Protest

Those guys are from teh AKJ....need i say more? Akhand Keertani Jatha have been described humourously as PKJ or Pakhaand Keertani Jathaa.

My own view is that AKJ are Sikhs, but they are no different to any other cult like Namdhari's, or Radhaoswami.
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thank you for all the inputs but people we need to discuss...IS IT BEADBI ?? See, my idea is to promote Sikhi Swaroop...if turbans come in trend..things can change...and what has been a part of the culture has to be promoted ...Turbans have been part of the India culture since ages...
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thank you for all the inputs but people we need to discuss...IS IT BEADBI ?? See, my idea is to promote Sikhi Swaroop...if turbans come in trend..things can change...and what has been a part of the culture has to be promoted ...Turbans have been part of the India culture since ages...
Sikhs do not have a monoply on turbans!

So I cannot see why not.
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