Is Ardas Offered To Shri Guru Granth Sahib, or to God?

Thanks for all the replies,but my simple question was, is ardas offered to guru granth sahib or to god ?
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The Sat Guru

Interesting question.

I want to thank all the Seekers, Scholars who have pitched in here to show us the glimpse of Ardaas from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

I asked the following sometimes ago in another forum which I would like to share with all of you:

Sadh Sangat,

We are all aware that Ardaas plays a very important part in our Sikhi
way of life.I have always been puzzled by Ardaas that we
do today.The word Ardaas is found 303 times in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, thanks to the Gurbani
search engine.However we all know that the contents of the Ardaas we
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hard-talk/23430-ardas-offered-shri-guru-granth-sahib.html
use today are NOT the same of how/what our Gurus did.

Does anyone have any idea what kind of Ardaas Guru Nanak did and then
how it was evolved with all other nine Gurus who followed him?

Some contents of the Ardaas we do today [do not] seem [to be in line with]
Gurmat.

Input from all would be appreciated.

Tejwant Singh

PS:There is another interesting article by Baldev Singh ji regarding Ardaas which was posted here sometimes ago. I am posting the thread number below. Let us revive this and share our facets of this beautiful diamond called Gurbani with each other.

http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sik...al-prayer.html

Guru Arjun Ji Sahib is very clear to WHOM we offer ARDASS.

"TU THAKUR......TUM PEH ARDASS.... herte is a site for the MP3 version of this beautiful ARDASS.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23430
GurmatChanan.com - Tu Thakur Tum Peh Ardas .mp3

Artist: GurmatChanan.com Song: Tu Thakur Tum Peh Ardas Album: Annual Gurmat Sangeet Darbar, Chicago Year: - Genre: - Duration: 0004 Bitrate: 128 Kbps Frequency: - Downloads: 51 Format: Mp3 file This mp3 file was found at: keertan.gurmatchanan.com

Is there any distinction? Shri Guru Granth Sahib is the Lord Himself. "Waho Waho Bani Nirankar Hai".

Jasbir ji..
Bhagat Singh has answered your question EXACTLY as you required on this same page !!!
Did you miss it or ??

To recap..Ardass is offered by US..for our own satisfaction. AND YES ardass is offered to GOD and GOD ONLY. ( SIKHS). I am not sure about other religions.

God is all powerful..JANNEE JAAN..all KNOWING. He DOESNT 'need" US to tell HIM what we wnat/desire/need..BUT we are SO full of HAUMAII that we NEED to tell Him exactly what we WANT..and LOUDLY too. In addition we want all the sangat to HEAR EXACTLY what we PAID the Granthi....Langgar bill etc etc came to and how rich we are...and at the very end we MOCK HIM by saying..You are Janneee Jaan..HO GOD...are YOU listening GOD ??

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Thus an ardass can be said in any place/condition/situation/whatever...it can be said lying down..swimming.. ( drowning ???) ....walking....cycling..skiing..while the plane is crashing....in the maternity ward...while awaiting birth..or dying in the oncology ward..ANYWHERE and ANYTIME...and Facing in any direction...yes even upside down in Space.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23430
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23430

Hope this answers or is satisfactory. The problem with the Internet and Forums is...there is SO MUCH INFORMATION....soemtimes soemone like you requires just a "YES" "NO" answer..and posters flood the Pages with hundreds of shabds etc...no body is to be blamed....because then others cna learn something else...and the World goes round.....he he he...

Harpreet Ji..
Gurfateh.

NO..not really.

But then the next dhuchhar question will be..What ?? so a "book" is GOD ?? How ??
IF ardass is to GOD..then why face the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji ?? etc etc etc... dhuchars can go on and on..IF GOD is everywhere..then why dont we pray with our backs to the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji ??..why cant we offer ardass near the shoe racks..in the car park ?? You get my drift ??. I have already gone down this path....for the past 50 years....

Those among us who have studied the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and Gurbani...offer ardass FACING the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji because we LOVE and HONOUR the GURU...no one catches us by our necks and forces us to do that..we can WALK OUT anytime we like..OR NOT even go up to the Darbar sahib if we dotn like it....we all have a choice..a FREE CHOICE. Heck even a ordinary friend deserves that we look at him while he is speaking...when we can if we wish turn our BACK to him and still listen ?? The Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is a repository of the Life time experiences of Bhagts, Gurus, Holy Men of God..the RECIPE for a Successful LIFE and reunion with our Creator...why wouldnt anyone want to Face Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji..while talking with the Creator..GOD.

Tejwant Ji.
Gurfateh.

You have raised many pertinent points.
Ardass is in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji 303 times....shows this is a very important aspect of Gurmatt and Gurmatt Rehnni..everyday life of a Gursikh.

1. Each "Ardass Shabad" in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is simply a prayer to the ALmighty Creator.. and the Vast majority of these shabds are..... of THANKS.... SHUKRANA...by the HUMBLE GURUS...a lesson in humility we should emulate....

In contrast our typical ardass in the Gurdwara is mostly of REQUESTS....some one wants a son..another wants to pass his exam...one wants to win his court case..another wnats success at the Tender Exercise...a lot want Good Health....some more want a lot of wealth...and the LIST of demands/wants/requests/ attached to the snangtee ardass is so boring and long....people begin to look here and there wondering when its all going to finally end...and then begins the long boring list of "donations" the 1.25 becomes BEAANT MAYA ( Uncountable amount !!...even if the Decimal point is removed..the amount is hardly "uncountable !!!)..the gentleman who paid for the marble tiles..the lady who paid for all the atta for the langgar...the Krorpatee who sponsored the renovation of the toilets...etc etc etc.....and the gentleman who ostensibly "donated" the UNCOUNTABLY HUGE AMOUNT of 1.25 wants the GURU to give him in return KHAZANNEH BHARPOOR KARNEH..Fill his treasure chests/saftey boxes and bank accounts to overflowing !!! in other words he bought a Lottery Ticket for 1.25 which promises a payout of MILLIONS..and He wants GURU to remember that !! and PAY UP...or else..( I wont donate the 1.25 anymore ??) .

2. Secondly even in the wording sense... the ARDASS that we use today is very very different from the Ardass shown in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. It begisn with the word Bhaugati...which is stretched to mean CREATOR..when in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji the word BHAGAUTI is different.
This ardass is more of a "HISTORY" of the SIKH NATION...names of the Sikh gurus... HERE I would like to point out that the Firts pauree of the Ardass is a superb poem that EXHIBITS the Das GURU - ONE JYOT Principle very clearly and simply. The WORD "GURU" is attached ONLY to the FIRST GURU - NANAK...then the Word "GUR" is used as a LINK..between GURU NANAK....and the following.....Angad ....( GUR TE ).....Amardass..Ramdass..and so on. None of the GURUS is then addressed as GURU. This means that AAD GURU..is GURU NANAK..who then passed on His GURGADEE JYOT to Angad..to Amardass..to Ramdass..Arjun..Hargobind..Har rai..Har Kishan and Teg bahadur...The Name of Guru Gobind Singh ji is put in by the Panth. This is a MAJOR point in GURMATT PHILOSOPHY.
A lot of people get offended that the word "GURU" is not attached to the second guru onwards..and some DO attach it by saying..GURU TEG BAHADUR Simreeah..on their OWN - which is WRONG. Some are offended that the names of the Gurus are not "complete"..no "DEV" after Arjun..for example ( that might be proof that the word dev is not really attached to either Guru Angad Ji or Guru arjun Ji as well)
But whats clear is that the ardass we do today as part of the Nitnem is man made by the Panth and is a microcosm of our History. Its one sure fire way of having a improptu HISTORY LESSON everytime an ocassion for ardass arises....thus OUR Glorious HISTORY can never be forgotten even for a Day.

Gyani Jarnail Singh Ji, Gurfateh. I completely agree with you that Ardas is and it should be offered only to God. But I fail to understand why we mention the offerings made of ;pushaks"or "rumalas" and "be-ant maya" in our Ardas. Is it not adressed to Guru Granth Sahib and is it not idol-worshop?