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| | | | | Re: How Dera Sacha Sauda Spreads Its Wings Quote:
Originally Posted by vijaydeep Singh Gurfateh
Any true Singh,with mercy of Akal can do this.
If we have our funadamenatals about God cleared in Guru Granth Sahib Ji,then we get to know about the weakness of other demi gods and thier worshipper wide Dasham Granth Sahib JI.
Next is to have offensive mind set.Terms refered to us is lion,sanke(mar/bhujangi),Crocodile(Nihung) all means top of the pyramid.
So to have high spirit in all circumstances,in sorrow and in happyness thanking Akal and having full faith in all action capability of all time visible God.That is the only power we have and that is the ultimate power.Other than that God,all is korh or useless.Akal Bless. | And that is your Chardi Kala spirit which always shines through in everything you write, and why I read everything you write with immense enjoyment.
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__________________ ਜੇ ਕੋ ਮੂੰ ਉਪਦੇਸੁ ਕਰਤੁ ਹੈ ਤਾ ਵਣਿ ਤ੍ਰਿਣਿ ਰਤੜਾ ਨਾਰਾਇਣਾ ॥ jae ko moon oupadhaes karath hai thaa van thrin ratharraa naaraaeinaa || If someone is going to teach me something, let that be that the Lord is pervading the forests and fields. | 
01-Jul-2008, 12:28 PM
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| | | | | Re: How Dera Sacha Sauda Spreads Its Wings Gurfateh
Brother Amar Sanghera JI,
Das was affliated with them since 1989 to say 1999.Duirng 1998,he became Sikh so slowly moved away from them and stayed with two rival Sikh gruops,one lead by S. Surjeet Singh Ji missioanry and latter on with Bhai Harbans Singh of Patiala.(Similar accociation were and still are there with Sikh Missioanry Collage Ludhiana and Nirmalas). Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hard-talk/22193-how-dera-sacha-sauda-spreads-its.html
It was only during 2007,after joining Budhadal,das sent to RSS by factions rival to Baba Balbeer Singh ,our present Mukhi,on the pretext that as RSS is upper caste institution,and as per them das is also from upper caste,so das should use his old history to let RSS presurise Mr Badal,to stop the support to out caste Baba Balbeer Singh Ji.
Das did go to RSS,has he not gone then they(the rival faction) would have used some other channel(BM Sharam ,prem Singh Sher).Das himself was fed up with castism in Budhadal and had full support to Baba Balbeer Singh Ji.So he went into RSS(Sikh Wing) and motivated them to support Baba Balbeer Singh Ji with full might.(this lead to rival Budhadal faction becoming thirsty of das's blood). Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=22193
Since then RSS,has been taking inputs from das about thier policy decision,and das is also giving them input from rest of the Sangat,that how shoudl they function.Then das is also keeping in views various publications dome by them,to see if they are as per mainstream Sikhism.(it always does not mean that they follow what das says,das can only suggest them and they act as they deem fit).
So Answer is yes.But RSS is not the only institituion with which das is working.
anyway coming back to Sacha Sauda thing.Since last year,RSS(Sikh Wing and main wing) was against Sirse Wala Baba.So das did not contribute any thing in that.
Das has so far tried to bring peple from missionaries and AKJ in contact with think tank of RSS.To know Sikhs,Nirmalas or Namdharis could only misguide them. | 
01-Jul-2008, 13:00 PM
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| | | | | Re: How Dera Sacha Sauda Spreads Its Wings i thought so
i had seen articles by someone named Vijaydeep Singh in RSS(sikh wing) magazine | 
01-Jul-2008, 13:29 PM
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| | | | | Re: How Dera Sacha Sauda Spreads Its Wings Gurfateh Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=22193
Das thaought of that They have a strange thing.Thy do use name of thier differnt functionaries,while views are thier own.Das has been telling them to not use his name.They have clarfied that this person is from Jagadhari and not das.
such things are part of propoganda warfare .Das was once offered by a great Siikh intellectual to use das's name for his artilce.which das refused as das wanted him(the intllectual be known to the world).
So das is confessing that he did not knows even,when his name appears.But they deny that this person is same as das.One more thing over here is that reason for Ambala Sahib tendering an apology to Akal Takhat and Kala Afghana Sahib not coming to Akal Takhat is due to the fact that thier book are not penned by them.(Das is even aware that who wrote thier text) and this was rectified with two cross checks from differnt soruces. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=22193
Das has been sending the articles for Sikh Missioanry collage,Sikh Phulwari but they never entertained them.
So it is use of das's name if at all,it is das's name.So far das has nothing writtan online or offline which has been published. | 
01-Jul-2008, 13:34 PM
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| | | | | Re: How Dera Sacha Sauda Spreads Its Wings they might have told you another lie!!!
the person mentioned Vijaydeep Singh is from Delhi and not Jagadhari
i smell something fishy going on
if they are using your identity...it is completely un ethical !!! Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=22193
please take care ! | 
01-Jul-2008, 13:45 PM
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| | | | | Re: How Dera Sacha Sauda Spreads Its Wings Gurfateh
OK know das understood,sorry for not reading the thing correctly.We are talking about Magzine.Das first was thinking about a news item at thier site,which is a memorandom given to non smoking pictures in NCERT books where naem vijaydeep Singh has come. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=22193
Yes there were two articles which das did not write and they gave name of him,one was realted to Bhai Randheer Singh Ji and another was with Hola Mahala.Das did object to them.But they said that they have just pen dowen the views of das.Yet das still says that although there was nothing objectionalbe in them,yet das did not pen them.
But das is realy thank full to yourself about the suggestion and das is by now keeping an eye on each edition,that his name should not come in.Becasue they are not the only one Das is associated.And in past some persons from Gursikh asked das about the same question about an atricle ,writtan by das while das did not know about it.So thanks again. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=22193
In two article this thing is anyway true that they took all info from das and then penned it dowen and gave name of das.They said that das is real cause of them yet das does not like words been put into his mouth.So Thanks again. | 
08-Mar-2010, 04:06 AM
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| | | | | Re: How Dera Sacha Sauda Spreads Its Wings So what is wrong in running a religioun driven corporation and getting money from politicians? ( Trying to bring back discussion to main topic)
I guess this is a good way in today's world. he has proved it. If one has the ability or luck or time, he is free to do it.
After all many try it and some succeed. There is no harm. Court cases are fine and should be there if something is wrong.
While in Punjab, I had seen 2' by 4' signs on the roads saying " Naam Charcha Ghar" without any building and just seasonal crop. I thought it may be owned by christian missionaries but I was wrong I guess. What is better, foreign missionaries or local sect?
As I wrote many times, there are gaps, people need to be engaged. If you can do it... fine otherwise someone else will do it. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=22193
Look at it this way,
A large crowd with 24 hours a day at their disposal.
Some people say... come we will get khalistan... some people get busy and some get scared.
Another group says, come let us chant. Have food. Nice place to visit for a day...... many people join.... and then it become a MLM event these people bring more people in.
they get power.... economic power, vote power. RADHA SS and SACHA SAUDA etc.
SGPC also has similar place ASR but has surrendered its economic and political power without getting any benefits FOR THE PEOPLE.
let Simranjit Singh mann, an Educated one do the same in his area of influence, otherwise he will loose few hundred votes he gets now. | 
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