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23-Jun-2012, 13:12 PM
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I know when I used to live in Punjab there were very few sikhs who dare to shave their beard and hair. They were full of sikhi. I missed those golden days. Whosoever were shaving used to be called Pattit. And I know it used to take months to come out from this shame. But now as the figures are coming up around 80% who have forsaken their sikhi swroop, this terms seems derogatory to them. As such they have now started predicting end of sikhi swroop, our guru gifted us even with price of their children. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hard-talk/14395-sikh-without-his-flowing-hair-turban.htmlReference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=14395
Shame on you
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23-Jun-2012, 15:35 PM
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During the Famous Aklai MORCHAS of the 1920-19235's which brought the Britihs Govt to its KNEES and racist bigots like the Mahatma Gandhi also forced to acknowledge and send telegram to Baba Kharrak Singh ref: First Battle of Indian Independence WON " _ The Sikhs DIDNT know "politics"..thats why when India won Independence..another such Gandhi chela Nehru wrote to Master Tara Singh.."Times have CHANGED"...(meaning you are now slaves of US rather than the British ). Anyway there was this ONE MORCHA Called KIRPAN MORCHA..whereby the British govt tried to LIMIT the size of the Kirpan...and FAILED against the onslaught of the Sikh kaum...and the British Govt was wise enough and instead of saying.."Times have changed"..they Conferred the Award of KIRPAN BAHADUR of the Morcha Dictator who won this battle of Sikh and INDIAN INDEPENCE. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=14395Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=14395 http://www.thesikhencyclopedia.com/t.../kirpan-morcha  | | The following members appreciate Gyani Jarnail Singh Ji for the above message. | |
25-Jun-2012, 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by drpranavsingh  Very good thought indeed. I want to say except those blinded by faith, and those compelled by their profession, almost all turbaned Sikhs have an inner secret desire to cut hair and save time from hours of grooming every day. Most of them are in denial and write long posts on these forums trying to hide insecurities. The smart ones have cut hair, have saved time and self torture and are happy.
The rate at which Punjab Sikh is cutting hair, turbaned Sikhs will become an endangered species in another 2-3 decades. The only place they will be seen will be isolated areas in north america. Sikh leaders have failed to dispel Guru's message and have repulsed the youth by their own egos.
Guru Nanak Dev ji gave up Janeu. Time for sikhs to give up the K's and recognize true religion of Guru Nanak Dev ji. | im sorry but what did you mean by the text in red.... as in literal or sarcasm? | | The following members appreciate justosh Ji for the above message. | |
25-Jun-2012, 16:40 PM
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Originally Posted by drpranavsingh Very good thought indeed. I want to say except those blinded by faith, and those compelled by their profession, almost all turbaned Sikhs have an inner secret desire to cut hair I do not cut my hair and i wear a turban, yes in the past i have had thoughts about my hair, possibly cutting it...for a sikh this is to battle of the 5 thieves, the mind makes a million excuses to 'be like everyone else' 'life will be easier' 'i wont get looked at by others' etc etc. when a sikh becomes a Pure Khalsa, then his/her outer dress lights him/her up like a lighthouse so he stands out in the crowd and he/she helps ferry the population across the terrifying world ocean.
save time from hours of grooming every day. Most of them are in denial and write long posts on these forums trying to hide insecurities. The smart ones have cut hair, have saved time and self torture and are happy. Hours of grooming?...what is it that you think we do? My morning consists of combing my hair (a minute at the most), tie my turban (5 minutes at the most), then 45 minutes Simran/meditation before i drive into work.
The rate at which Punjab Sikh is cutting hair, turbaned Sikhs will become an endangered species in another 2-3 decades. The only place they will be seen will be isolated areas in north america. Sikh leaders have failed to dispel Guru's message and have repulsed the youth by their own egos. 99.9% of the population is plundered into darkness of maya. if only 1 in millions becomes a puran khalsa, then there is always hope for mankind  This is not a game of numbers.
Guru Nanak Dev ji gave up Janeu. Time for sikhs to give up the K's and recognize true religion of Guru Nanak Dev ji. True Religion of Guru Nanak requires daily amrit Vela simran. This in itself will take you out of your comfort zone, your mind will make millions of excuses not to do it...'no one else does, why should i', 'i've got work in the morning, i need my sleep' etc etc. In the end, everything a true practicing 'seeker of the truth' sikh does makes him different to 99.9% of the population. The battle with the mind starts...the sikh has two options 1. get into my comfort zone and be like everyone else or 2. climb the spiritual ladder, one step at a time and understand why 99.9% of the population is in darkness...experience the light, and then help others to experience it also. | God bless all. | | The following members appreciate chazSingh Ji for the above message. | |
25-Jun-2012, 21:34 PM
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Originally Posted by drpranavsingh Very good thought indeed. I want to say except those blinded by faith, and those compelled by their profession, almost all turbaned Sikhs have an inner secret desire to cut hair and save time from hours of grooming every day. Most of them are in denial and write long posts on these forums trying to hide insecurities. The smart ones have cut hair, have saved time and self torture and are happy.
The rate at which Punjab Sikh is cutting hair, turbaned Sikhs will become an endangered species in another 2-3 decades. The only place they will be seen will be isolated areas in north america. Sikh leaders have failed to dispel Guru's message and have repulsed the youth by their own egos.
Guru Nanak Dev ji gave up Janeu. Time for sikhs to give up the K's and recognize true religion of Guru Nanak Dev ji. |
OK lets say for 1 second your comment is right:
This would mean:
1) We ignore all Bani in the Guru Granth Sahib ji written by other Guru's because we ONLY listen to that Bani of Nanak
2) We ignore the fact that Nanak passed on the GUruship to Guru Angad.
3) We ignore the fact there appears to be no change in message between the 1st Nanak to the 10th.
shall I go on?  | | The following members appreciate Randip Singh Ji for the above message. | |
19-Apr-2013, 14:34 PM
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Originally Posted by triloruf@yahoo.com Its Disgusting To Hear. This Is A Big Discouragement To We Foreigner Who Embraced Sikhism. The Problem Of The Sikhs Are With The Sikhs Themselves
Here In Lagos Nigeria. Odenary Common Announcement One Hear The Sikhs Announcing It In Punjabi Language. There Is No Respect For Human Dignity As If God And The Masters Will Send A Curse If Simple English Is Spoken.
I Embraced Sikhism Twenty(20) Years Ago Out Of Simple Convictions, And I Keep My Hier And Turban. | a sikh was born to look ,live and die DIFFERENT.so no excuse is acceptable,what so ever.[KHALSA AKAL PURAKH KI FAUJ,soldiers alwaysare different from common.]lets be happy that chaff is getting separated from grain.sikhism is not everybodys cup of tea.[KHANEO TIKHI WALLO NIKKI ET MARAG JANA,3rd master/anand sahib]let us not dilute the standards set by the masters .my congratulations to triloruf ji,may the almighty bless us all to be worthy of his fauj. |
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Originally Posted by Randip Singh OK lets say for 1 second your comment is right:
This would mean:
1) We ignore all Bani in the Guru Granth Sahib ji written by other Guru's because we ONLY listen to that Bani of Nanak
2) We ignore the fact that Nanak passed on the GUruship to Guru Angad.
3) We ignore the fact there appears to be no change in message between the 1st Nanak to the 10th.
shall I go on? | You can go on till you start making any sense. Read everything again and tell me how in present context, Turban is different from Janeu? |
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Turban is different from Janeu?
| Turban is not for high castes but all humans!
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Originally Posted by drpranavsingh You can go on till you start making any sense. Read everything again and tell me how in present context, Turban is different from Janeu? | drpranavsingh ji,
Guru Fateh,
Before we delve further into this interesting conversation, allow me to ask you the question.
Do you wear this 'Janeu' yourself or not?
If yes, why and if no, why not?
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