Guru Granth Parchar Mission of USA, Inc.

harsimiritkaur · #1 (**permalink**) 25-Feb-2007, 14:05 PM

This registered non profit organization is committed to spread the teachings of Guru Granth Sahib to all races. We are looking for property to open up a Missionary College in the Bay area of California. Our focus is on Professor Sahib's veyakarim shudh paath and understanding of pure Sikhism. We will not be run by rich people's bribes to Hinduize the sangat with pseudo Sikhism. We respect all people regardless of their faith, but we promote monotheism, and gurbani. We do not ask for money, but we hope and pray God will send people with common interests to help support our cause. This organization does not have election of officers by the sangat, in order to prevent corrupt people from taking office. There will be no corrupt politics and no misuse of golak money. Nobody will be getting rich from our organization's sweat and blood income.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/guru-granth-parchar-mission-usa/15026-guru-granth-parchar-mission-usa-inc.html
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kaur-1 · #2 (**permalink**) 27-Feb-2007, 02:04 AM

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=15026

Bhenji, what may I ask is "Professor Sahib's veyakarim shudh paath"? I am just qurious.

harsimiritkaur · #3 (**permalink**) 27-Feb-2007, 04:23 AM

Professor Sahib was a Hindu Brahman Pandit that took Amrit and became one of the world's greates scholars of Guru Granth Sahib. His name was Naturam before he became a Sikh. He was a very pious and poor man that was not greedy and very humble. The missionary colleges use his method of reading. He was not the first person to use this method, as thousands of Sikhs read the same way for generations. Professor Sahib unlocked the key to reading Gurbani with understanding. Sometimes the onkar at the end of the last haha is silent, like veyparvah(u) and Shah(u). Sometimes there is an invisible bindee that denotes plural present tense, like sabh dhiave(n)h, or jo seyve(n)h. But with "Tun" the verb kare(n)h also has an invisible bindee. Another prime example is from Lakh kusiya patsahiya. It should be pronounced "Lakh khushiya(n) patshahiya(n). If you say kushiya and not khushiya, then it would mean thief.

kaur-1 · #4 (**permalink**) 27-Feb-2007, 04:44 AM

Thank Bhenji for explaining. I guess that means that its very important to learn gurmukhi and to learn how to pronounce Gurbani correctly. So much to learn!.

prakash.s.bagga · #5 (**permalink**) 07-Jul-2011, 13:50 PM

Harsimrat Kaur Ji,
I appreciate the efforts you are making to make people to understand Gurbaani meanings with proper Grammer.
I have myself gone into deep study of Prof Sahib Singh jis contribution .I have my own point to bring to your kind notice.No doubt Prof Sahib Singh ji did commendable job to make us aware of grammer of Gurbaani words.But I find that while interprating the Gurbaani Prof Sahib Singh ji did not do full justice of the grammer indicated by himself.This is really surprising.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=15026
As an example you can observe yourself regading the meanings of the words
GuR PRASAADi.Here the meaning of the word GuR is taken as GuRU.There is no explanation as to how the word GuR can be taken as GuRU whereas both words are gramatically different.
This way the whole interpretation of Gurbaani seems to be different than you consider the grammer of the words.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=15026
What is your opinion in this regard it would be very nice if you can share this viewwhich is so important for the whole understanding of Gurbaani.
Prakash.S.Bagga

Ambarsaria · #6 (**permalink**) 08-Jul-2011, 00:28 AM

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Originally Posted by prakash.s.bagga

Harsimrat Kaur Ji,
I appreciate the efforts you are making to make people to understand Gurbaani meanings with proper Grammer.
I have myself gone into deep study of Prof Sahib Singh jis contribution .I have my own point to bring to your kind notice.No doubt Prof Sahib Singh ji did commendable job to make us aware of grammer of Gurbaani words.But I find that while interprating the Gurbaani Prof Sahib Singh ji did not do full justice of the grammer indicated by himself.This is really surprising.
As an example you can observe yourself regading the meanings of the words
GuR PRASAADi.Here the meaning of the word GuR is taken as GuRU.There is no explanation as to how the word GuR can be taken as GuRU whereas both words are gramatically different.
This way the whole interpretation of Gurbaani seems to be different than you consider the grammer of the words.
What is your opinion in this regard it would be very nice if you can share this viewwhich is so important for the whole understanding of Gurbaani.
Prakash.S.Bagga

Prakash.S.Bagga ji I appreciate your comments and some that you have made many times at least to me are basically abhorrent.

I quote and my comments in red,

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I have myself gone into deep study of Prof Sahib Singh jis contribution .I have my own point to bring to your kind notice.No doubt Prof Sahib Singh ji did commendable job to make us aware of grammer of Gurbaani words.But I find that while interprating the Gurbaani Prof Sahib Singh ji did not do full justice of the grammer indicated by himself.This is really surprising.

One does not throw stones at dead people. We are learning ourselves and learn from others. I continue to believe you are knowledgeable but I find you share little beyond "Gur", "Guru" and "Gur Parsadi" focus.

Please cite where Professor Sahib Singh ji is wrong, that way we can review and correct our understanding. I for sure agree that he is not 100% but is better than everyone including what I know about you from your posts.

So please, please share with specifics and don't paint with a broad brush as it is irritating and useless.

It may just be me, I am feeling frustrated. I sure know that adding to frustration is not the reason you post same stuff repeatedly.

Please help all by sharing some of your insights where you say and I quote what you write above, "I have myself gone into deep study of Prof Sahib Singh jis contribution ."

Please excuse me as I am here to learn/share like everyone else. Absolutely nothing personal is intended.

Sat Sri Akal.