Guru

ravneet_sb · #1 (**permalink**) 19-Oct-2011, 19:18 PM

"GURU"

"GU" is darkness "RU" is light

"GURU" dispels darkness and brings light like shabad of "GURU's BANI"

Our visual sense provide experience of "EXTERNAL WORLD" to our "Imaginative Sense" or "Surat"

But How to get realization of "INNER WORLD" inside body experiences

Our senses disguise that cause of

"E Motion" is outer physical world

"GURU's BANI" take us out of this doubt

"GURU BANI" says cause of E Motion is ones own thought and chemistry produced within

"SEX" or Sensual Feeling are not related to physical opposite sexual body

but it is related to thought of opposite sexual body by physical sense reading watching or just imagination

It is production of testosterone which excites not the physical opposite
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So Do "FEAR"

Snake doesn't causes "FEAR"

If it causes fear than why model of snake evoke fear

And than learned people of National Geograhic Channel how they are not afraid of snake

Its only mind and training of mind.
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So do all ten basic emotions

(Five Positive and Five Negative)

10 Bondages

or

10 Attachements of mind

Originated as "RAVAN" from stem cells of navel no one can kill it again appears

There is equivalent counter action for all our external actions

One may eat anything but internal body knows how to make balance

Stop and Realize Who makes balance

Body's PH, Temprature, Pressure is static "BIOSTATS"

One may try to disturb the internal balance by misbehaving with the discipline of body.

But "GOD" know to create life balance for "living of that cell"

So know your inside and enjoy healthy, peaceful life

with "GURU's BANI"

Check external and internal both for getting reality

"GURU's BANI" dispels inner darkness

"GRANTH SAHIB" is "GURU"

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Arvind · #2 (**permalink**) 20-Oct-2011, 21:38 PM

Thanks.. It made a wonderful reading

Ambarsaria · #3 (**permalink**) 21-Oct-2011, 00:36 AM

ravneet_sb ji thanks for your post. Just one comment regarding the non-Sikh or layman's understanding of the common usage of the word "Guru" in non-Eastern centric populations.

I take the following definition from Merriam-Webster dictionary,
(http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/guru)

Quote:

gu·ru

noun
\ˈgu̇r-(ˌ)ü, ˈgü-(ˌ)rü also gə-ˈrü\
plural gurus
Definition of GURU

1: a personal religious teacher and spiritual guide in Hinduism

2a : a teacher and especially intellectual guide in matters of fundamental concern b : one who is an acknowledged leader or chief proponent c : a person with knowledge or expertise : expert

Examples of GURU

He has been a guru to many young writers.
She's a self-proclaimed financial guru.
Fitness gurus call it the hottest new exercise trend of the year.

Origin of GURU

ultimately from Sanskrit guru, from guru, adjective, heavy, venerable —

Related to GURU

Synonyms: ace, adept, artist, authority, cognoscente, connoisseur, crackerjack (also crackajack), dab [chiefly British], dab hand [chiefly British], fiend, geek, expert, hand, hotshot, maestro, master, maven (also mavin), meister, past master, proficient, scholar, shark, sharp, virtuoso, whiz, wizard
Antonyms: amateur, inexpert, nonexpert

So common understood usage in non-religious ways (perhaps 99% of its usage in the West) is a teacher, an expert, a knowledgeable person, a revered person.

I offer the above in the context that we cannot change the world and need to recognize how it is.

Thanks for your post and above only a suggestive add-on if it helps create a balanced reading, specially for the young and new.

Sat Sri Akal.

ravneet_sb · #4 (**permalink**) 21-Oct-2011, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ambarsaria

ravneet_sb ji thanks for your post. Just one comment regarding the non-Sikh or layman's understanding of the common usage of the word "Guru" in non-Eastern centric populations.

I take the following definition from Merriam-Webster dictionary,
(http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/guru)

So common understood usage in non-religious ways (perhaps 99% of its usage in the West) is a teacher, an expert, a knowledgeable person, a revered person.

I offer the above in the context that we cannot change the world and need to recognize how it is.

Thanks for your post and above only a suggestive add-on if it helps create a balanced reading, specially for the young and new.

Sat Sri Akal.

"MAN" is limited one's mind can be evoked for

1. Literature
2. Legal
3. Financial
4. Technical
5. Human
6. Medical
7. Environmental
and so many fields.

But to realize all are subject matter of

to understand all object inside is "ONE" that is "mind"

One may evoke knowledge in one field, two field, three or many.
Sill ocean of knowledge is vast.
No one can absorb it.

One has definition of "GURU" with own knowledge of respective field.
So literal people defines "GURU" having light of particular field.

"GURU's BANI"

say don't try to capture ocean in pot

Understand the pot "MIND"

Role of "MIND" in the body

Know the "SELF" inside

And be in "Peace"

Outer knowledge if for eaning in life

But to live happy life "On" should be aware of own "INNER SELF"

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Ambarsaria · #5 (**permalink**) 21-Oct-2011, 10:43 AM

ravneet_sb ji thanks for your post.

My post was not a negative comment on your starting post which is very good but just for note only.
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You use "Guru's" "Bani" in some of your writing versus "Gurbani". I thought it is always Gurbani.

Can you differentiate or comment on the difference thereof.

Thank you.

Sat Sri Akal.

ravneet_sb · #6 (**permalink**) 21-Oct-2011, 11:36 AM

SAT SRI AKAAL,

"I" don't know
and my apology "I" have not read most of writtings.
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The way it comes "I" write.

Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa
Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh

prakash.s.bagga · #7 (**permalink**) 21-Oct-2011, 12:24 PM

I think Gurbani is not a literature so the wordly literal meanings may not be conveying the true message of Gurbani.
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Gurbani is BRAHMGIYANu and its messages should be understood from within Gurbani.
Prakash.s.Bagga

ravneet_sb · #8 (**permalink**) 21-Oct-2011, 16:04 PM

SAT SRI AKAAL,

"I" may have used wrong letters, alphabets or words to my imaginative thought.

So please don't take it literal or alphabetic,
words are just to express inner feeling and imagination.

"GURU" in physical form is

"Master" who can not be contradicted, not teaches, but preaches, whos work is above all arguements

"Doer" or practitioner of the subject
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"Fearless" no fear of topic

"Without Jealousy/ hatred" is supremo of subject has no inferior or superior feelings

"Resembles Formless"

"Without Mindset" attuned to "True Nature"

like "GURU NANAK" is our spiritual "GURU"
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And "GURU GRANTH" sahib ji

"GURU" in abstract form

"PAWAN GURU" as a thought

which hits mind plane and one speaks
and
one master his recitation or literature

"GURU's PARSAD" or "masters food of thought' always doer/tasteless/formless but soon it hits mind,

it take form of words (English/Pujabi/ Bengali.......)

From which MASTERS are born

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

prakash.s.bagga · #9 (**permalink**) 21-Oct-2011, 16:37 PM

While writing anything in context of Gurbani we can not use our own imagination for making use of words .Since Banee is perfect thru perfect GuR we have to understand this perfection otherwise we go astray. All Gurbani words are from TAKSAAL of TRUTH
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so we should always make use of the words in the form as given in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji .

Prakash.S.Bagga