Help Needed on Shabad

sonicheez · #1 (**permalink**) 15-May-2011, 21:46 PM

Hi All

I have been adviced to read a particular prayer/shabd, but I am not sure if I have written it down correctly.

I will write here what I have and hopefully someone out there can correct me if I'm wrong or lead me to the right one:

"Bilawal mehlwa penjwa
Sant paye guru sat gur pure
Sukh ubhajaye bandth hature
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Tah paap senta bihase
Har simret kilwel sebhnase
Anand karo mil sundero nale
Gur nanake meri baj suwaji""

Thank you
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spnadmin · #2 (**permalink**) 15-May-2011, 23:25 PM

sonizcheez ji

Quote:

Bilawal mehlwa penjwa

This means the shabad comes from raag Bilaawal/bilaaval, and is by Guru Arjan Dev as mehla 5. pr 5th Guru

I cannot find any shabad or tuk by Guru Arjan Dev in raag Bilaaval that begins with

Quote:

Sant paye guru sat gur pure

Something may be off with the transliteration making this unsearhable, or words may be reversed. I will continue to look for you. This is a continual problem with transliterations because people invent them. Things go wrong.

Sometimes, however, a shabad given by another is not really a shabad but something that is part of the popular knowledge that builds over time, like a poem. Let's not give up. Another forum member may be able to help.

spnadmin · #3 (**permalink**) 15-May-2011, 23:40 PM

Ok You have it here. The transliteration is wrong and the beauty of this shabad lost because of that. The prayer also was not complete. Enjoy

ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥
Bilāval mėhlā 5.
Bilawal 5th Guru.

ਸਾਂਤਿ ਪਾਈ ਗੁਰਿ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਪੂਰੇ ॥
Sāŉṯ pā▫ī gur saṯgur pūre.
The Guru, the Perfect True Guru, has blessed me with peace.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=35397

ਸੁਖ ਉਪਜੇ ਬਾਜੇ ਅਨਹਦ ਤੂਰੇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
Sukẖ upje bāje anhaḏ ṯūre. ||1|| rahā▫o.
Joy has welled up and the bugles of joy incessantly play. Pause.

ਤਾਪ ਪਾਪ ਸੰਤਾਪ ਬਿਨਾਸੇ ॥
Ŧāp pāp sanṯāp bināse.
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My sufferings, sins and afflictions are dispelled.

ਹਰਿ ਸਿਮਰਤ ਕਿਲਵਿਖ ਸਭਿ ਨਾਸੇ ॥੧॥
Har simraṯ kilvikẖ sabẖ nāse. ||1||
Meditating on the Lord, all my vices have hastened away.

ਅਨਦੁ ਕਰਹੁ ਮਿਲਿ ਸੁੰਦਰ ਨਾਰੀ ॥
Anaḏ karahu mil sunḏar nārī.
Meeting together, O the beauteous brides, make ye merry,

ਗੁਰਿ ਨਾਨਕਿ ਮੇਰੀ ਪੈਜ ਸਵਾਰੀ ॥੨॥੩॥੨੧॥
Gur Nānak merī paij savārī. ||2||3||21||
Guru Nanak has saved my honour.

For forum members who have differences with the translation to English, this one is by Bhai Manmohan Singh. Please provide your personal understanding if you do not agree, rather than offer a global criticism. Thank you

Astroboy · #4 (**permalink**) 16-May-2011, 00:40 AM

What a wonderful shabad. Thanks. I already feel at peace within.

spnadmin · #5 (**permalink**) 16-May-2011, 05:37 AM

soniacheez ji

I was just wondering how you came to be told to recite this prayer? If it is not overly nosy of me to ask about it...who gave you the prayer to recite and what was the purpose of saying it?
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=35397

Thanks

Aman Singh · #6 (**permalink**) 16-May-2011, 08:29 AM

it is intriguing how word ਸਾਂਤਿ in actual shabad means peace and but in the shabad quoted by the sonicheez means SANT... This derives an entirely different meaning altogether.

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cocosingh · #7 (**permalink**) 16-May-2011, 08:39 AM

The correct Shabad is as follows:

This Shabad is by Guru Arjan Dev Ji in Raag Bilaaval on Pannaa 806

iblwvlu mhlw 5 ]
bilaaval mehalaa 5 ||
Bilaaval, Fifth Mehla:

sWiq pweI guir siqguir pUry ]
saa(n)th paaee gur sathigur poorae ||
The Guru, the Perfect True Guru, has blessed me with peace and tranquility.

suK aupjy bwjy Anhd qUry ]1] rhwau ]
sukh oupajae baajae anehadh thoorae ||1|| rehaao ||
Peace and joy have welled up, and the mystical trumpets of the unstruck sound current vibrate. ||1||Pause||

qwp pwp sMqwp ibnwsy ]
thaap paap sa(n)thaap binaasae ||
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Sufferings, sins and afflictions have been dispelled.

hir ismrq iklivK siB nwsy ]1]
har simarath kilavikh sabh naasae ||1||
Remembering the Lord in meditation, all sinful mistakes have been erased. ||1||

Andu krhu imil suMdr nwrI ]
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anadh karahu mil su(n)dhar naaree ||
Joining together, O beautiful soul-brides, celebrate and make merry.

guir nwnik myrI pYj svwrI ]2]3]21]
gur naanak maeree paij savaaree ||2||3||21||
Guru Nanak has saved my honor. ||2||3||21||

This is exactly the same shabad as I posted previously. However the translation is by Dr. Sant Singh Khalsa. spnadmin

Ishna · #8 (**permalink**) 16-May-2011, 08:41 AM

Aman Singh ji, how does a tramslation difference like that come about? How is a beginner to know what is correct and what is not?

Ambarsaria · #9 (**permalink**) 16-May-2011, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spnadmin

Ok You have it here. The transliteration is wrong and the beauty of this shabad lost because of that. The prayer also was not complete. Enjoy

ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥
Bilāval mėhlā 5.
Bilawal 5th Guru.

ਸਾਂਤਿ ਪਾਈ ਗੁਰਿ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਪੂਰੇ ॥
Sāŉṯ pā▫ī gur saṯgur pūre.
The Guru, the Perfect True Guru, has blessed me with peace.

ਸੁਖ ਉਪਜੇ ਬਾਜੇ ਅਨਹਦ ਤੂਰੇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
Sukẖ upje bāje anhaḏ ṯūre. ||1|| rahā▫o.
Joy has welled up and the bugles of joy incessantly play. Pause.

ਤਾਪ ਪਾਪ ਸੰਤਾਪ ਬਿਨਾਸੇ ॥
Ŧāp pāp sanṯāp bināse.
My sufferings, sins and afflictions are dispelled.

ਹਰਿ ਸਿਮਰਤ ਕਿਲਵਿਖ ਸਭਿ ਨਾਸੇ ॥੧॥
Har simraṯ kilvikẖ sabẖ nāse. ||1||
Meditating on the Lord, all my vices have hastened away.

ਅਨਦੁ ਕਰਹੁ ਮਿਲਿ ਸੁੰਦਰ ਨਾਰੀ ॥
Anaḏ karahu mil sunḏar nārī.
Meeting together, O the beauteous brides, make ye merry,

ਗੁਰਿ ਨਾਨਕਿ ਮੇਰੀ ਪੈਜ ਸਵਾਰੀ ॥੨॥੩॥੨੧॥
Gur Nānak merī paij savārī. ||2||3||21||
Guru Nanak has saved my honour.

In reference to the above sentence by sentence, below is an attempt to get to the essence of the whole as a translation from Prof. Sahib Singh ji's Punjabi "Guru Granth Darpan",

Quote:

pdArQ:- sWiq—SWqI, Awqmk TMF [ guir—gurU ny [ siqguir—siqgurU ny [ aupjy—pYdw ho gey [ bwjy—v`j pey [ Anhd—{Anhq—ibnw vjwx dy} iek-rs [ qUry—vwjy [1[rhwau[
qwp—du`K [ pwp—ivkwr [ sMqwp—klyS [ ismrq—ismridAW [ iklivK—pwp [ siB—swry [1[
Andu krhu—Awqmk Awnμd pYdw kro [ imil—iml ky [ nwrI—hy nwrIho! hy myry igAwnieMidRE! guir—gurU ny [ nwnik—nwnk ny [ pYj—lwj, ie`zq [2[

ArQ:- hy BweI! pUry gurU ny, siqgurU ny (hir-nwm dI dwiq dy ky ijs mnu`K dy ihrdy ivc) TMf vrqw id`qI, aus dy AMdr swry suK pYdw ho gey (mwno, aus dy AMdr) iek-rs swry vwjy v`jx l`g pey [1[rhwau[

A tranquil and peaceful unison has developed through the understanding of the true creator. It feels like that without effort peaceful sounds are happening inside.

(ijs mnu`K ny gurU dI ikrpw nwl hir-nwm ismrnw SurU kr id`qw, aus dy swry) du`K klyS dUr ho gey [ prmwqmw dw nwm ismridAW ismridAW aus dy swry pwp nws ho gey [1[

Through study and understanding of the creator, the hurt, evil and anguish have dissipated.

(nwm dI brkiq nwl) sohxy (bx cuky) hy myry igAwn-ieMidRE! qusIN hux rl ky (sqsMg mnw ky Awpxy AMdr) Awqmk Awnμd pYdw kro [ gurU nwnk ny (mYƒ qwp pwp sMqwp qoN bcw ky) myrI ie`zq r`K leI hY [2[3[21[

Bliss and happiness has come for me and Nanak you have preserved my dignity.

I stand corrected for any errors and welcome other inputs.

Sat Sri Akal.