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Is reading Gurbani enough to cross the world ocean of Maya. Can reading Gurbani alone make you one with God? I know that Gurbani is an extremely powerful tool, and its value is underestimated by millions of people, but can it alone carry us across?
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Guru Arjan Dev Ji in Raag Bilaawal :

ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ ਮਹਲਾ ਜੀਵਉ ਨਾਮੁ ਸੁਨੀ ਜਉ ਸੁਪ੍ਰਸੰਨ ਭਏ ਗੁਰ ਪੂਰੇ ਤਬ ਮੇਰੀ ਆਸ ਪੁਨੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ
Bilāval mėhlā 5.Jīva▫o nām sunī.Ja▫o suparsan bẖa▫e gur pūre ṯab merī ās punī. ||1|| rahā▫o.


Bilawal 5th Guru.I live by hearing Thy Name, O Lord.When the Perfect Guru is mightily pleased with me, then is my hope realised. Pause.


ਜੀਵਉ = ਜੀਵਉਂ, ਮੈਂ ਜੀਊ ਪੈਂਦਾ ਹਾਂ, ਮੈਨੂੰ ਆਤਮਕ ਜੀਵਨ ਮਿਲ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ। ਸੁਨੀ = ਸੁਨਿ, ਸੁਣ ਕੇ। ਜਉ = ਜਦੋਂ। ਪੁਨੀ = ਪੁੱਗ ਜਾਂਦੀ ਹੈ, ਪੂਰੀ ਹੋ ਜਾਂਦੀ ਹੈ।੧।ਰਹਾਉ।

(ਹੇ ਭਾਈ! ਪਰਮਾਤਮਾ ਦਾ) ਨਾਮ ਸੁਣ ਕੇ ਮੇਰੇ ਅੰਦਰ ਆਤਮਕ ਜੀਵਨ ਪੈਦਾ ਹੋ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ (ਪਰ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਦਾ ਨਾਮ ਸਿਮਰਨ ਦੀ) ਇਹ ਮੇਰੀ ਆਸ ਤਦੋਂ ਪੂਰੀ ਹੁੰਦੀ ਹੈ ਜਦੋਂ ਪੂਰਾ ਗੁਰੂ (ਮੇਰੇ ਉੱਤੇ) ਬਹੁਤ ਪ੍ਰਸੰਨ ਹੁੰਦਾ ਹੈ।੧।ਰਹਾਉ।

ਪੀਰ ਗਈ ਬਾਧੀ ਮਨਿ ਧੀਰਾ ਮੋਹਿਓ ਅਨਦ ਧੁਨੀ ਉਪਜਿਓ ਚਾਉ ਮਿਲਨ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮ ਰਹਨੁ ਜਾਇ ਖਿਨੀ ॥੧॥
Pīr ga▫ī bāḏẖī man ḏẖīrā mohi▫o anaḏ ḏẖunī.Upji▫o cẖā▫o milan parabẖ parīṯam rahan na jā▫e kẖinī. ||1||
My pain is past, my mind is comforted and the melody of bliss has bewitched me.Within me has welled up yearning to meet my Beloved Lord, I can live not without Him even for an instant.


ਪੀਰ = ਪੀੜ। ਬਾਧੀ = ਬੱਝ ਗਈ। ਮਨਿ = ਮਨ ਵਿਚ। ਧੀਰਾ = ਧੀਰਜ। ਅਨਦ ਧੁਨੀ = ਆਨੰਦ ਦੀ ਰੌ ਨਾਲ। ਖਿਨੀ = ਇਕ ਖਿਨ ਵਾਸਤੇ ਭੀ।੧।

(ਹੇ ਭਾਈ! ਗੁਰੂ ਦੀ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਨਾਲ ਜਦੋਂ ਮੈਂ ਨਾਮ ਜਪਦਾ ਹਾਂ, ਮੇਰੇ ਅੰਦਰੋਂ) ਪੀੜ ਦੂਰ ਹੋ ਜਾਂਦੀ ਹੈ, ਮੇਰੇ ਵਿਚ ਹੌਸਲਾ ਬਣ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ, ਮੈਂ (ਆਪਣੇ ਅੰਦਰ ਪੈਦਾ ਹੋਏ) ਆਤਮਕ ਆਨੰਦ ਦੀ ਰੌ ਨਾਲ ਮਸਤ ਹੋ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹਾਂ, ਮੇਰੇ ਅੰਦਰ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਨੂੰ ਮਿਲਣ ਦਾ ਚਾਉ ਪੈਦਾ ਹੋ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ, (ਉਹ ਚਾਉ ਇਤਨਾ ਤੀਬਰ ਹੋ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਦੇ ਮਿਲਾਪ ਤੋਂ ਬਿਨਾ) ਇਕ ਖਿਨ ਭੀ ਰਿਹਾ ਨਹੀਂ ਜਾ ਸਕਦਾ।੧।


ਅਨਿਕ ਭਗਤ ਅਨਿਕ ਜਨ ਤਾਰੇ ਸਿਮਰਹਿ ਅਨਿਕ ਮੁਨੀ ਅੰਧੁਲੇ ਟਿਕ ਨਿਰਧਨ ਧਨੁ ਪਾਇਓ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਨਾਨਕ ਅਨਿਕ ਗੁਨੀ ॥੨॥੨॥੧੨੭॥
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Anik bẖagaṯ anik jan ṯāre simrahi anik munī.Anḏẖule tik nirḏẖan ḏẖan pā▫i▫o parabẖ Nānak anik gunī. ||2||2||127||
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Thou, O Lord, hast saved many devotees and saints and meditate on Thee millions of silent sages.Nanak has attained to the Lord of innumerable virtues, who is the prop of the blind and riches of the poor.


ਸਿਮਰਹਿ = ਸਿਮਰਦੇ ਹਨ। ਟਿਕ = ਟੇਕ, ਸਹਾਰਾ। ਨਿਰਧਨ = ਕੰਗਾਲ। ਅਨਿਕ ਗੁਨੀ = ਹੇ ਅਨੇਕਾਂ ਗੁਣਾਂ ਦੇ ਮਾਲਕ!।੨।

ਹੇ ਮਾਲਕ! (ਆਖ-) ਹੇ ਅਨੇਕਾਂ ਗੁਣਾਂ ਦੇ ਮਾਲਕ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ! (ਤੇਰਾ ਨਾਮ) ਅੰਨ੍ਹੇ ਮਨੁੱਖ ਨੂੰ, ਮਾਨੋ, ਡੰਗੋਰੀ ਮਿਲ ਜਾਂਦੀ ਹੈ, ਕੰਗਾਲ ਨੂੰ ਧਨ ਮਿਲ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ। ਹੇ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ! ਅਨੇਕਾਂ ਹੀ ਰਿਸ਼ੀ ਮੁਨੀ ਤੇਰਾ ਨਾਮ ਸਿਮਰਦੇ ਹਨ। (ਸਿਮਰਨ ਕਰਨ ਵਾਲੇ) ਅਨੇਕਾਂ ਹੀ ਭਗਤ ਅਨੇਕਾਂ ਹੀ ਸੇਵਕ, ਹੇ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ! ਤੂੰ (ਸੰਸਾਰ-ਸਮੁੰਦਰ ਤੋਂ) ਪਾਰ ਲੰਘਾ ਦਿੱਤੇ ਹਨ।੨।੨।੧੨੭।


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Re: Is reading Gurbani enough?

Thanks kiram ji - this is worth every minute.
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Bilawal 5th Guru.I live by hearing Thy Name, O Lord.When the Perfect Guru is mightily pleased with me, then is my hope realised. Pause.
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My pain is past, my mind is comforted and the melody of bliss has bewitched me.Within me has welled up yearning to meet my Beloved Lord, I can live not without Him even for an instant.
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Dear Khalsa Ji,

Gurbani is Shabadd, it explains what is otherwises unexplainable, it conveys the purpose of our life and tells how to live one's life.

Reading Gurbani again and again and comtemplating over it gives you, progressively, the deeper meaning of the Shabad.

We have to internalise the teachings of Gurbani and incorporate them into our being. When this is really achieved, the individual's thoughts, verbal utterances and physical action all will correspond to the teachings of Gurbani. Such a person's being resonates with gurbani, this individual has realised the spiritual state - 'Waje Shabadd Ghanerai' mentioned in Gurbani. This person becomes a living expression of Gurbani and thus becomes a 'Sikh' (an element of learning) for all others to emulate. Such a person is also referred to as 'Gursikh' i.e. 'Gurmukh'
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This is my very personal understanding.

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Is reading Gurbani, without understanding its message at all going to do you any good?
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As far as I am concerned this is one of the questions that should be asked again and again.
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Is reading Gurbani, without understanding its message at all going to do you any good?
Singisking ji,

Guru fateh.

Interesting and intriguing question to say the least. Anything we read, see, watch, hear, listen to; has the objective of creating its understanding.
Without that it becomes meaningless.

Hence understanding Gurbani so that we can use it in our daily life and eventually make it our second nature is the whole essence of Sikhi.

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Do we read the Daily newspaper without understanding its contents?
I don't see why Gurbani should be forced to be read without the understanding.
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Children go through this process, that's because at their stage it is plain blind faith
and also they can memorize anything quickly without asking questions.
Memorizing Gurbani without understanding is the initial learning stage.
We have to advance from that stage.
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