aad0002 Ji


I Agree and disagree with you. Here is the reason. Lets go back to worldly things. Any one, who falls in love with someone, a strong feeling envelops the personality. One misses the other strongly, due to worldly affair, that separation is understood and one tries to tolerate it if separation situation comes. This happens when falling in love with someone but when we say (or try or use some other word that can express that feeling) we love God, is it just the way we love many things/people or the way one is in love with some one. That slight difference keeps us in duality. We have made here our own world, we love that world and support that world; by doing so, we have created a distance to understand HIM and HIS creation.” Na Ko vairi na ko baigana” is an expression of the blessed one, that is the state of mind becomes after falling in love with HIM. That mind just cannot separate His creation from oneself. We are enriched with Gurbani wisdom, door is shown but why we just don’t miss HIM? I feel strongly that we are just like children left in a very attractive fair and busy with toys. Momentarily we forget where is our FATHER – MOTHER(HIM)
The last paragraph you wrote, I agree

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Aad Ji and PK70 Ji,

This may seem abstract but not unrelated to your conversations.
Have you seen the intensity of a young couple in love, like how they would do anything to reach their goal - the following quotes come to mind :-

"Ignorance is Bliss"

"Obstacles are what you see, when you put your eyes off the goal."

Now let's say that you as an observer shift your attention to an older couple in their late 50's. They seem different from the previous couple. Having a conversation with them, one may conclude, "the heart is always young, never grows old."

Bringing you to this : being young at heart, though often taken for granted, needs an indepth understanding of the self. When aad Ji, you mentioned your desire to express in soothing words to another's ear, it took me to a short journey within.

The heart never grows old, it seems young always. This is like the molten lava at the centre of the earth. Ability to change form and adjustment with ease. The outer crust (physical body) takes all the beating from the forces of nature and worldly affairs. Hardens and wears down fastest.

When one travels the path towards HIM, we get in touch with the heart centre and journey within. Most of the time, even after years and years of devotion we feel that nothing has changed within, almost a stagnation of unfoldment but the years show remarkable change on the outer body.

Actually the change within cannot be seen by one's ownself, but to an observer, he sees the spiritual change from the manifestation of the light within, reflected on one's face. To one's self, driving up a hill might not feel climbing at all, but to an observer who sees the hill from a distance, it definitely is a climb.

In this spiritual path, we are always reaching within because it is here where our home truly is.

If somebody eats a chocolate and enjoys it that doesn't mean that the chocolate is the source of the enjoyment. There are many people who do not like chocolate because they do not bring forth the joy from within towards eating chocolate. If chocolate was the source of enjoyment, then it should bring joy to everyone. Joy resides within one's heart. Peace, happiness, tranquility, fulfillment resides within.

When we seek fulfillment from the outer things, we are bound to face with dissappointment. If we think changing jobs, changing spouse, changing residence will bring about the change in our lives, they are but a short-lived fantasy. True change happens when we adjust to the Primal Mould with ease from within.

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"The chakvi bird does not long for sleepy eyes; without her beloved, she does not sleep. When the sun rises, she sees her beloved with her eyes; she bows and touches his feet. The love of my Beloved is pleasing; it is my Companion and Support. Without Him, I cannot live in this world even for an instant; such is ny hunger and thirst. The lotus in the pool blossoms forth intuitively and naturally, with the rays of the sun in the sky. Such is the love for my Beloved which imbues me; my light has merged into the Light. Without water, the rainbird cries out, "Pri-o! Pri-o! - Beloved! Beloved!" It cries and wails and laments. The thundering clouds rain down in the ten directions; its thirst is not quenched until it catches the raindrop in its mouth. The fish lives in the water, from which it was born. It finds peace and pleasure according to its past actions. It cannot survive without water for a moment, even for an instant. Life and death depend on it.

The soul-bride is saperated from her Husband Lord, who lives in His Own Country. He sends the Shabad, His Words, through the True Guru. She gathers virtues, and enshrines God within her heart. Imbued with devotion, she is happy. Everyone cries out, "Beloved! Beloved!: But she alone finds her Beloved, who is pleasing to the Guru. Our Beloved is always with us; through the Truth, He blesses us with His Grace, and unites us in His Union. He is the life of the soul in each and every soul; He permeates and pervades each and every heart; I am intuitively, naturally, absorbed into Him. He Himself shall resolve all your affairs, when you meet with the Giver of peace, the Lord of the World. By Guru's Grace, you shall find your Husband Lord within your own home; then, O Nanak, the fire within you shall be quenched."

I think, when one is in-love, it is just impossible to separate one from the Beloved...be it worldly or Divine. It is just in ones MIND...HEART...SOUL AND SPIRIT. That's the mystery of our humble human heart and soul, naturally formed that no human intervention would prevail; lest one is whittle away and gradually die out of heartaches. When we are in-love, we prostrate to our Beloved, who turned Omnipotent...the Almighty...and nothing else matters.

Aaaa...Bless our good heart and soul.

Little did I know that the pot of gold would be found in my own backyard.

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I think...sometimes...it's based on our own individual perception on what is "gold". What is gold to us may not be gold to others.

Glad you found your 'pot of gold' Namjap. What ever the gold to you, hope it worth your soul.

...always pleased to hear someone is happy..

I'll let out a secret to happiness - don't have high expectations.

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The Five "evils" Kaam Krodh, Lobh Moh hankaar..are to be "CONTROLLED" and used.
Sikhism/gurmatt doesnt advocate total annihilation of say..KAAM ( Celibacy)..as the Kaam is essential to "CREATION". Some preachers wrongly preach that these five chors are to be killed totally..but Guru says these Mahabalis are to be "tied up" badheh...Running away from the world..Maya..Temptation..is not the way of Gurmatt..we must stay and FIGHT and Conquer them..make them work for us.

Gyani Jarnail Singh

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What happened over night? Pk 70 ji, we have more company! I went to bed and a whole bunch of people came to visit The Beloved - Piaaraa. One is Quiet Wisdom (Nam Jap). One is Souring Soul (Lucy Ahmed). One is Brother at the Heart of Encouragement (Giani).

Now it is a better thread. Please continue.

P/S Giani - These are my constant companions. As long as I remember that it is God that created this Confusion, they don't become agitated. They tend to play quietly and not cause too much of a disturbance. Well, sometimes they do.

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ਮਨ ਕਰਹਲਾ ਗੁਰ ਗੋਵਿੰਦੁ ਸਮਾਲਿ ॥ man karehalaa gur govindh samaal O camel-like mind, dwell upon the Guru and the Lord of the Universe.

Hahaha aad0002,

It's not a souring heart at all, but just a respond to the statements here.

Anyhow isn't that what is all love about - the longing, and all the aches that accompany it??

But sometimes...I wonder..."Why love has to be accompany by all those heartaches?"
Can't love be just all sweet?
Is love is nothing but only a delusion to our human mind?

I have read views of, Lucy Ahmad, namjapji, aad0002, Giani ji and, wonderful, very encouraging to go on that chosen path. My curiosity is little different in this context, some time, Gurbani answers it perfectly but I just start analyzing my part of loving HIM. Am I alone who feel that our love has deficiency if we do not miss HIM? There is Guru Shabad which triggered this feeling I have been trying to share with you as per Guru shabad”jit ghat SACH n paae su bhann ghareeai(milar ki Vaar M-1) In essence If His love doesn’t envelop us, we should be reshaped ourselves views wise(mentally not boily). Further Guru ji says”jin ke bhande bhaao tina swarsi..Soohi Mehla 1( in essence: the one who has love for Him will be blessed with merits(swarna= gun dene). Goal is to miss HIM in love, Guru ji clearly says about this love for HIM I have been talking about repeatedly
mwrU mhlw 1 ] koeI AwKY BUqnw ko khY byqwlw ] koeI AwKY AwdmI nwnku vycwrw ]1] BieAw idvwnw swh kw nwnku baurwnw ] hau hir ibnu Avru n jwnw ]1] rhwau ] qau dyvwnw jwxIAY jw BY dyvwnw hoie ] eykI swihb bwhrw dUjw Avru n jwxY koie ]2] qau dyvwnw jwxIAY jw eykw kwr kmwie ] hukmu pCwxY Ksm kw dUjI Avr isAwxp kwie ]3] qau dyvwnw jwxIAY jw swihb Dry ipAwru ] mMdw jwxY Awp kau Avru Blw sMswru ]4]7] {pMnw 991}
( In essence: Some call me a ghost; some say I am a demon. Some call me a poor thing Nanak But crazy Nanak has gone crazy for his Lord, the . I know of none other than the Lord. || 1 || Pause || Only He/she is alone is known to be crazy for Him who goes crazy for His fear . He/she recognizes none other than the One Lord . || 2 || Only that one is crazy for Him who lives for the One Lord. And, recognizing His ordinance, disregards other cleverness or intelligence || 3 || Only that one is crazy for Him who falls in love with the Lord and and as humble to consider His creation, the rest of the world better than him/her.. GGS 991)

Please share your views in this context, why we don’t miss HIM?

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