Are There Real Sants in the 21st Century?

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I was wondering that almost 100/50 years ago there were Real Saints like Bhai Randhir singh, Piara singh, Pooran Singh etc. People who met those souls were also blessed.

But what about now? Do you guys , (any of you) know if there is Real Saints living in Canada/UK/INdia/US . Or have anybody heard about them ???????
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Please post some of the names if you know. It`ll be really appericable.
thanks
stupidjassi
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Respected stupidjassi ji

This question is one that I myself find unanswerable. There were individuals, as you say, who were called "Sant "-- and you name a few. When reading about them there is always an S. before their names -- as with Randhir Singh -- and they were accorded great respect in those days. There is a line in Bandginama -- written also by someone called a "Sant" . That line says "Never Test a Sant". My point being that the spirituality of these people was not theoretical in the minds of those who called them "Sant" in those days.

There is another question -- may I ask it? When you use the term "Sant" what qualities are you thinking of? Or are you wondering yourself? There are many ways a sant can be described. All different. Gurbani says, There is only one Sant. This statement shouldn't be interpreted in a simplistic way.

The sants you list above are felt by some today to be political agents and therefore not "sants". Yet others argue that the word "sant" is reminiscent of Hindu influences that should be discouraged or even harshly discouraged. Others who are called "sant" are Babas running political cells under the guise of political organizations. Yet others are leaders of cults. Still others called "sant" are leaders of sects where the idea of the divine reincarnating as a human is firmly believed. Calling them "Sant" fuels controversies that are already raging.
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Added later: But I know of some individuals who to my eyes are truly saintly.
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You are asking a complicated question. I don't see how you are going to get a clear-cut answer. Maybe you don't really want a clear-cut answer. Perhaps it is the discourse that follows that you want to read. That is a reasonable expectation. Thanks for raising the question.

thanks for you reply . . Its not that complicated question as you think it is. Actually its not your fault, its just we make everything complicated.
All i meant was when you say this
I want to know or get close to those people because i recall when i was in college , and i was not that good in studies. I ask one of my friend a simple question "i study so much but i never gets marks , So how i can be intelligent and topper" and as expected i got simple answer
"Make an friend who is already intelligent "

that`s it. So true. This is same reason ,
' if you want to be saint make a friend who is already saint'

The answer is painfully simple as Guru Sahib have told 'one in a million Of Gurmukhs'.......

FOR GURMUKH.......is one
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One who believes and acts as per bani 100 %.

Does it mean anything?
If yes; that is the answer.

I'll be honest with you, I have only come accross one 20th Century Saint and that is Bhaghat Puran Singh of Pingalwara fame:

www.pingalwaraonline.org

The people who have cited above I would certainly said were Gurmukhs, but not Saints.

A living Saint maybe Nelson Mandela.

Irrespective of any sect, I should also add Mother Teresa. This was the answer that was received in almost a similar post and it is distinctly remembered that namjap ji had replied this.

It is always nice to have you namjap ji, aad ji and taciturn like kds1980 who are always guiding us in the crisis. Dear Randip ji , I had not forgotten your contribution. You really seem to be polite person .
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Thanks to Aman ji for this Service.

Blessed is Mr. Aman Singh who is engaged in this self less service and may he be blessed by Him for all the pains and the labor that he is undertaking for us.
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All of us are trying to help one another in a way that we can. But in the process we may have hurt someone. Forgiveness is entreated for this from all those who have not stated it in words. They have been very kind.


Regards to all!

Make things complicated? Who me? Not?
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haha i know its dat simple. but what i`m asking is more simpler that it is. I know the defination but i`m saying have you MET? or have you seen in today? i`m asking of the names of the real people

thanks
stupidjassi

I have me a few people in my own life like this. And they are not praying all the time, but making changes where there is need and suffering. They put me to shame. They do not spend time on the Internet. And they are really humble. Humble is different from self-effacing. That is a concept that I would like to explore sometime.
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Another thought -- from stories, not personal experience -- Gyani Thakur Singh may have been a sant. What do you think?