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Forty Vaaran and 675 Kabitt-Savaiyye, were written by Bhai Gurdaas ji (d. 1636) at different periods of his life. He was then the honored scribe of Aad Bir, or first recession of Sri Guru Granth Sahib, thus his understanding and knowledge of Gurbaani can be held very close to Guru Sahib’s true intention with the Holy Word. Sikh tradition tells us that even though Guru Arjan Dev ji didn’t include Bhai Gurdaas ji’s writings in Sri Guru Granth Sahib, he awarded his Baani with the title
Gurbaani di Kunji or ‘the Key to Guru’s Words.’


ਗੁਰ ਸਿਖੀ ਬਾਰੀਕ ਹੈ ਖੰਡੇ ਧਾਰ ਗਲੀ ਅਤਿ ਭੀੜੀ॥

gur sikhee bareek hai khanddae dhhar galee ath bheerree||

The discipleship of the Guru is very subtle like a sword edge and narrow alley.

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ਓਥੈ ਟਿਕੈ ਨ ਭੁਲਹਣਾ ਚੱਲ ਨ ਸਕੈ ਉੱਪਰ ਕੀੜੀ॥

outhhai ttikai n bhulehana chal n sakai oupar keerree||

Mosquito’s and ants cannot stand there.



ਵਾਲਹੁੰ ਨਿਕੀ ਆਖੀਐ ਤੇਲ ਤਿਲਹੁੰ ਲੈ ਕੋਲ੍ਹ ਪੀੜੀ॥

valahun nikee akheeai thael thilahun lai kolh peerree||

It is thinner than hair and as the oil of sesame is obtained after crushing it in the crusher with great difficulty, the discipleship of the Guru is not obtained easily.



ਗੁਰਮੁਖ ਵੰਸੀ ਪਰਮ ਹੰਸ ਖੀਰ ਨੀਰ ਨਿਰਨਉ ਜੁ ਨਿਵੀੜੀ॥

guramukh vansee param hans kheer neer nirano j niveerree||

Gurmukhs are descendants of swans and separate water from milk with their beak of thoughtfulness.



ਸਿਲ ਆਲੂਣੀ ਚਟਣੀ ਮਾਣਕ ਮੋਤੀ ਚੋਗ ਨਿਵੀੜੀ॥

sil aloonee chattanee manak mothee chog niveerree||

Like licking of the salt-less stone they pick up the rubies and jewels to eat.



ਗੁਰਮੁਖ ਮਾਰਗ ਚਲਣਾ ਆਸ ਨਿਰਾਸੀ ਝੀੜ ਉਝੀੜੀ॥

guramukh marag chalana as nirasee jheerr oujheerree||

The gurmukhs repudiating all hopes and desires move on the way of detachment and tear down the veil of Maya.



ਸਹਜ ਸਰੋਵਰ ਸਚ ਖੰਡ ਸਾਧ ਸੰਗਤਿ ਸਚ ਤਖਤ ਹਰੀੜੀ॥

Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19714
sehaj sarovar sach khandd sadhh sangath sach thakhath hareerree||

Holy congregation, the abode of truth and throne of the true Lord is the manasarovar for the gurmukhs.



ਚੜ੍ਹ ਇਕੀਹ ਪਉੜੀਆਂ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਗੁਰ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਸਹੀੜੀ॥

charrh eikeeh pourreeaan nirankar gur shabadh seheerree||

Climbing the steps of non-duality they adopt the Word of the formless Guru.



ਗੁੰਗੇ ਦੀ ਮਠਿਆਈਐ ਅਕਥ ਕਥਾ ਵਿਸਮਾਦ ਬਚੀੜੀ॥

gungae dhee mathiaeeai akathh kathha visamadh bacheerree||

They enjoy His ineffable story like they enjoyment by a dumb person of the sweets.



ਗੁਰਮੁਖ ਸੁਖ ਫਲ ਸਹਜ ਅਲੀੜੀ ॥੫॥

guramukh sukh fal sehaj aleerree ||a||

Through the natural devotion, the gurmukhs attain the fruit of delight.





 
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Re: Vaar Bhai Gurdas Ji

Bhai Vardas ji - Pauree 9, Vaar 20

ਜਿਉ ਪਾਣੀ ਨਿਵਿ ਚਲਦਾ ਨੀਵਾਣਿ ਚਲਾਇਆ ।
jiu paanee nivi chaladaa neevaani chalaaiaa|
As water flows downwards and takes with it whosoever meets it (and makes it also humble),


ਸਭਨਾ ਰੰਗਾਂ ਨੋ ਮਿਲੈ ਰਲਿ ਜਾਇ ਰਲਾਇਆ ।
sabhanaa rangaan no milai rali jaai ralaaiaa|
all the dyes mix up in water and it becomes one with every colour;


ਪਰਉਪਕਾਰ ਕਮਾਂਵਦਾ ਉਨਿ ਆਪੁ ਗਵਾਇਆ ।
paraupakaar kamaanvadaa uni aapu gavaaiaa|
erasing ego it does altruistic deeds;


ਕਾਠੁ ਨ ਡੋਬੈ ਪਾਲਿ ਕੈ ਸੰਗਿ ਲੋਹੁ ਤਰਾਇਆ ।
kaatdu n dobai paali kai sangi|ohu taraaiaa|
it does not sink the wood, it rather makes the iron swim with it;


ਵੁਠੇ ਮੀਹ ਸੁਕਾਲੁ ਹੋਇ ਰਸ ਕਸ ਉਪਜਾਇਆ ।
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vutday meeh sukaalu hoi ras kas upajaaiaa|
it makes for prosperity when it rains in rainy season.


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ਜੀਵਦਿਆ ਮਰਿ ਸਾਧ ਹੋਇ ਸਫਲਿਓ ਜਗਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨੦॥
jeevadiaa mari saadh hoi sadhaliao jagi aaiaa ॥20॥
Likewise, the holy saints getting dead in life i.e. removing their ego, making their coming to the world fruitful.

Thought continues in pauree 21 - very good meditation there as well.
I am glad you started this thread. Bhai Vardas has given us so much to think about - the fruit of devotion.
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Re: Vaar Bhai Gurdas Ji

This is real satsang.
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Re: Vaar Bhai Gurdas Ji

ਓਥੈ ਟਿਕੈ ਨ ਭੁਲਹਣਾ ਚੱਲ ਨ ਸਕੈ ਉੱਪਰ ਕੀੜੀ॥
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outhhai ttikai n bhulehana chal n sakai oupar keerree||

Mosquito’s and ants cannot stand there.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19714
Which word here translates as Mosquito?


ਗੁਰਮੁਖ ਵੰਸੀ ਪਰਮ ਹੰਸ ਖੀਰ ਨੀਰ ਨਿਰਨਉ ਜੁ ਨਿਵੀੜੀ॥

guramukh vansee param hans kheer neer nirano j niveerree||

Gurmukhs are descendants of swans and separate water from milk with their beak of thoughtfulness.
This is another new one?

Please elaborate>



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Re: Vaar Bhai Gurdas Ji

ਓਅੰਕਾਰੁ ਆਕਾਰੁ ਕਰਿ ਏਕ ਕਵਾਉ ਪਸਾਉ ਪਸਾਰਾ ।
aoankaaru aakaaru kari ayk kavaau pasaau pasaaraa|
All prevading Oankar through His One Word created the whole expansive cosmos.
ਪੰਜ ਤਤ ਪਰਵਾਣੁ ਕਰਿ ਘਟਿ ਘਟਿ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਤ੍ਰਿਭਵਣੁ ਸਾਰਾ ।
panj tat paravaanu kari ghati ghati andari tribhavanu saaraa|
Through the five elements, as the quintessence He permeated in the three worlds and their denominations.
ਕਾਦਰੁ ਕਿਨੇ ਨ ਲਖਿਆ ਕੁਦਰਤਿ ਸਾਜਿ ਕੀਆ ਅਵਤਾਰਾ ।
kaadaru kinay n|akhiaa kudarati saaji keeaa avataaraa|
That creator could not be seen by anyone who to expand Himself created the infinite nature(prakrti).
ਇਕ ਦੂ ਕੁਦਰਤਿ ਲਖ ਕਰਿ ਲਖ ਬਿਅੰਤ ਅਸੰਖ ਅਪਾਰਾ ।
ik doo kudarati|akh kari|akh biant asankh apaaraa|
He made myriad forms of nature.
ਰੋਮਿ ਰੋਮਿ ਵਿਚਿ ਰਖਿਓਨਿ ਕਰਿ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੰਡਿ ਕਰੋੜਿ ਸੁਮਾਰਾ ।
romi romi vichi rakhiaoni kari brahamandi karorhi sumaaraa|
In His each one hair He gethered up millions of worlds.
ਇਕਸਿ ਇਕਸਿ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੰਡਿ ਵਿਚ ਦਸਿ ਦਸਿ ਕਰਿ ਅਵਤਾਰ ਉਤਾਰਾ ।
ikasi ikasi brahamandi vich dasi dasi kari avataar utaaraa|
And then in one universe He comes in tens of forms.
ਕੇਤੇ ਬੇਦਿ ਬਿਆਸ ਕਰਿ ਕਈ ਕਤੇਬ ਮੁਹੰਮਦ ਯਾਰਾ ।
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19714
kaytay baydi biaas kari kaee katayb muhanmad yaaraa|
He has created many a dear personality such as Vedavyas and Muhammad dear to the Vedas and the Katebas respectively.
ਕੁਦਰਤਿ ਇਕੁ ਏਤਾ ਪਾਸਾਰਾ ॥੪॥
kudarati iku aytaa paasaaraa ॥4॥
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How wonderfully the one nature has been expanded into many.
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Re: Vaar Bhai Gurdas Ji

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mashhar machharu

In modern Punjabi mC`r machchcar mosquito

Which will differ from language forms in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji because the Punjabi is old Punjabi and it is also regional.

Other Indo-European languages - mosca, fly; mosquito, mosquito (Spanish and italian). moustique (Frenach),
You are absolutely right aad ji. But in this verse

ਓਥੈ ਟਿਕੈ ਨ ਭੁਲਹਣਾ ਚੱਲ ਨ ਸਕੈ ਉੱਪਰ ਕੀੜੀ॥
outhhai ttikai n bhulehana chal n sakai oupar keerree||

Mosquito’s and ants cannot stand there.
There is no such word that translates as Mosquito? In fact only half the sentence has been translated. Looks like the "cut and paste" has got lost in transit.

Your knowledge as a non punjabi puts those that are punjabi and claimed to know all, to shame.

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I just deleted the message because i wanted to fix the wording. It was kind of messy. Mispelled French by the way.

Thanks for noticing. Anyway -- not sure I put anyone to shame. My hunch, given the verse you were referring to -- is more a translator's construction of an idea that doesn't translate well at all into English. Given the verse is in poetic form, making it harder to do this to begin with.
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He is getting at the idea that ants on the ground and other (insects) things higher up in the air should be compared, as equally incompetent.
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Happens whenever in going from one language to another one is looking at intended meaning rather than explicit meaning.

What do you say the line mean?
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The correct word is ਭੁਣਹਣਾ ਸੰਗਾ- ਭੁਣਭੁਣਾ. ਮੱਛਰ ਤੋਂ ਛੋਟਾ ਇੱਕ ਜੀਵ, ਜੋ ਹਵਾ ਵਿੱਚ ਉਡਦਾ ਕੁਝ ਕਠਿਨਾਈ ਨਾਲ ਦੇਖਿਆ ਜਾ ਸਕਦਾ ਹੈ, ਭੂੰਗਾ. ''ਓਥੈ ਟਿਕੈ ਨ ਭੁਣਹਣਾ, ਚੱਲ ਨ ਸੱਕੈ ਉੱਪਰਿ ਕੀੜੀ.'' (ਭਾਗੁ)
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It is an insect smaller than a Mosquito.

In the first verse Bhai Gurdas ji is educating very simple minded people (most probably uneducated villagers)
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Bhai Sahib is explaining : Sikhi is like a fine(sharp) edged sword think of it as a very narrow alley.

In the second verse he is elaborating how confined the path is by explainging that the path is so precise/fine that even an insect smaller than a Mosquito cannot balance on it a kidi(a very small ant) cannot walk over it.

in Summary "Sikhi is a living living death."

I may elaborate further next time.

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ਧਰਤੀ ਨੀਵੀਂ ਹੋਇ ਚਰਣ ਚਿਤੁ ਲਾਇਆ ।
dharatee neeveen hoi charan chitu|aaiaa|
The earth becoming lowly concentrated on the feet (of Lord).


ਚਰਣ ਕਵਲ ਰਸੁ ਭੋਇ ਆਪੁ ਗਵਾਇਆ ।
charan kaval rasu bhoi aapu gavaaiaa|
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Being one with the joy of the lotus feet, it divested itself of the ego.


ਚਰਣ ਰੇਣੁ ਤਿਹੁ ਲੋਇ ਇਛ ਇਛਾਇਆ ।
charan raynu tihu|oi ichh ichhaaiaa|
It is that dust of the feet, which is desired by the three worlds.


ਧੀਰਜੁ ਧਰਮੁ ਜਮੋਇ ਸੰਤੋਖੁ ਸਮਾਇਆ ।
dheeraju dharamu jamoi santokhu samaaiaa|
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Fortitude and dutifulness added to it, the contentment is the basis of all.


ਜੀਵਣੁ ਜਗਤੁ ਪਰੋਇ ਰਿਜਕੁ ਪੁਜਾਇਆ ।
jeevanu jagatu paroi rijaku pujaaiaa|
It, considering the way of life of every creature, offers livelihood to all.


ਮੰਨੈ ਹੁਕਮੁ ਰਜਾਇ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਜਾਇਆ ॥੬॥
mannai hukamu rajaai guramukhi jaaiaa ॥6॥
In accordance to the divine will, it behaves like a gurmukh does.
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