I Am The Dust Of Your Feet

 
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Dear Members,

It is all very well to do copy and paste of selected Shabads from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, why not save your and others time and copy paste the entire Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji into the forum. Is the copy paste a reflection of your understanding and your experience that you are intending to share or it is because you are trying to educate others. Have you become a complete GurSikh or Braham Gyani?
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19298

Bani gives the individual a guide to improve oneself. The Bani you read or the Shabad you come across is meant for you it is what you need to educate yourself and not to show off look what I found.
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The message that the Shabad conveys is your message. Whether you like it or not. Just as you go to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and take a Vaak. Treat the Shabad you come across as if Guru ji is trying to educate you because you need to contemplate on the message as you are the one who needs that advice.

If it is a Shabad where the message is beyond your understanding then it is justified to ask for help from other members and you should say so. One should not copy paste Shabads to judge others either. The same shabad can have a different sense to people with different levels of maturity. A vast majority of the time the word ”Shabad” stands for Gurus Word, message and at other times it refer to “Anhad Naad”. To assume one over the other is just foolishness.

Please also do not use Shabads to indirectly insult others. Before you use that particular verse on others please ensure that firstly you understand it and secondly you have spiritually become mature enough to justify its usage.

Our Gurus have not laid any personal claim to be Gods even though the spiritually enlightened one knows that the difference behind the scenes has closed up. It is not our Gurus intention to be called Gods although some who have become closer to the Gurus have cried out that you are Permeshwar. (Swayaee of Bhatts). Whether Gurus are/were Gods or not is of no consequence to anyone. What is of consequence is that what is the state of your journey? You can be sitting next to God for that matter. What change has that brought to you is what matters.

Please ponder on this and behave like Sikhs(Students) and not self confessed Gurus. If you feel that Bani is Guru, Bani is Parmeshwar then learn to respect it. Do not insult your own Guru and God.


Kind Regards to all.

Bani is Naam and It is Nanak Bani Nirankaar Paarbrahm Parmesar for me.

'AAP JAPO AVRAA NAAM JAPAAVO'.
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Message is given by Guru. And Guru is everywhere. Guru is God and God is Guru. 'Bani nirankaar'. 'Jeta keeta teta naao'


'Kaee kot naam ras peevay' many millions are drinking this naam nectar

How many can you stop? Do you have the power to stop? Is your power greater than Waheguru?
Do you have the power to stop Nirankaar to be at any palce or form in this universe?


'Se simrea jin aap simraae'

Ambar Dhara Ji,

Ekmusafir made a very good point here. I have a feeling you're missing the point in your intepretation of bani. Can you be clear as to what Bani is ?

I have no problem with what you are saying at all.

Now that you claim to have the ability of 'AAP JAPO AVRAA NAAM JAPAAVO' perhaps you would like to educate me on the following:

1. Please elaborate what Guru ji are referring to in 'AAP JAPO AVRAA NAAM JAPAAVO'
2. Please elaborate from your own experience why "Bani is Naam" and is only Nanak Bani alone that is Nirankaar.
3. Message is given by Guru. And Guru is everywhere. Can you please elaborate who is the message for that is given by the guru? If Guru is everywhere then why "Avra naam Japaavo" agents required?
4. 'Kaee kot naam ras peevay' many millions are drinking this naam nectar
Can you please explain how this is happening? How are they drinking Naam Rras?
5. 'AAP JAPO AVRAA NAAM JAPAAVO' - 'Se simrea jin aap simraae' There appears to be contradiction between these two statements. Would you kindly elaborate to enlighten us.

I did not mean to offend you sir. I have realised now that it was a case of chota muh baddi baat. Would you kindly enlighten us all with your experience. I shall be indebted to you.

And finally can you tell us how we do this
Kindly give us some practical examples from you life experience.

From time to time I may ask you for your blessings on other issues.

Kind Regards

Wherever this conversation leads us, know that I am profoundly thankful that a serious discussion of Gurmat is happening in this thread. Too many weeks have passed and too much light conversation has transpired.
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Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19298

The topics are important and the perspectives are serious. Good going. Some of us actually benefit from a careful discussion.

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Pauree:
NANNA: One who conquers his own soul, wins the battle of life.
One who dies, while fighting against egotism and alienation, becomes sublime and beautiful.
One who eradicates his ego, remains dead while yet alive, through the Teachings of the Perfect Guru.
He conquers his mind, and meets the Lord; he is dressed in robes of honor.
He does not claim anything as his own; the One Lord is his Anchor and Support.
Night and day, he continually contemplates the Almighty, Infinite Lord God.
He makes his mind the dust of all; such is the karma of the deeds he does.
Understanding the Hukam of the Lord's Command, he attains everlasting peace. O Nanak, such is his pre-ordained destiny. ||31||

har Dhoorhee nHaa-ee-ai mail gavaa-ee-ai janam maran dukh laathay.
Bathing in the Lord's dust, my filth has been washed away, and the pains of birth and death have departed.

antar baahar sadaa hadooray parmaysar parabh saathay.
Inwardly and outwardly, the Transcendent Lord God is ever-present, always with us.

mitay dookh kali-aan keertan bahurh jon na paavaa.
Suffering departs, and there is peace; singing the Kirtan of the Lord's Praises, one is not consigned to reincarnation again.

nam jap Ji,

It may be a point for you but for me it is not worth responding.
Thanks for your suggestion.

Ekmusafir ji,

Still looking for a worthy opponent? There ain't any because they all copy and paste without really understanding it. LOL