15-Mar-2008, 23:21 PM
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Nam Jap, Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19100
It is always the kirtaan that goes right to the center of the heart like an arrow. It is what got me hooked in the first place. It is what keeps me stuck in this place.
He is the fisherman; I am the fish -- there are such tuks in Gurbani that explain this helplessness. |
15-Mar-2008, 23:55 PM
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Aad Ji,
Thank you for everything I went thru - you were beside me and Aman Ji too. Kirtan is truly beautiful and appreciated most when we're feeling especially down or depressed. Kaur-1 Ji is a good person but I don't know why we reacted adversely to each other. Could it be that because we are very similar in nature ? |
16-Mar-2008, 00:00 AM
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Nam Jap,
I am glad you are feeling stronger -- WHEW!!! How many billion people are there in the world? This one and that one are not always going to hit it off.
And actually, if all x billion of us were completely in agreement all the time it would be very weird -- like zombie-land. Also the downside of Internet communication is that one cannot tell what the true intention and emotion is behind the words, so misunderstandings are inevitable. |
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This book is available on SPN BOOKS STORE. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19100
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Sikh80 Ji First of all thanks for sharing interpretation by Gyani ji. About Gyani ji I have no knowledge but interpreting Gurbani with fabricated stories is not healthy because it has a message which cannot be altered at all, if one does, contradictions appear, the totality of Guru message should be kept in mind while interpreting. Gurbani was revealed to Guru ji, how it came to them, and how it came on paper, we don’t know, it was highly unlikable that when ever any thing happened around Guru ji, he started expressing it through Gurbani. One example is” Mohan tere ooche…..Mehla 5” It is not addressed to that Mohan, a relative of Guru ji but the Creator. There is no possibility that so high level of praise can be addressed to mortals. If there are names of any one, it is nothing more than a reference, actual praise or credit is to Him. Every word used as medium of Guru Message( especially by Mehl 1) has some thing to say more. Let’s look at one Guru Vaak “ gave ko daat janai nisaan gave ko gun vaddiaee chaar” English translation takes both words “daat” and “ nisaan” as “gift” but it is more than that. Daat is gift or blessing but Nisaan is more than daat/gift. Guru ji says some sing praises of Him as per His gift and keep it as His “token of love” ( jaanai nisaan). Token of love keeps melting our emotions and love for Him keeps glowing. Then comes "one praises His great virtues and their beauty". Bottom line is, the more purified love for Him is in the heart, the more chances are to have experiencing Him with His bliss. I have tried to say what I feel in this context other than Gyani ji who keeps quoting stories even when they are not necessary. Enjoy the following Guru Vaak in which Guru ji makes clear many illusions about liberation with His bliss and ponder over how the rest talk becomes immaterial !!!!
ਭਨਤਿਨਾਨਕੁਕਰੇਵੀਚਾਰੁ॥
भनतिनानकुकरेवीचारु॥
Bẖanaṯ Nānak karė vīcẖār.
Says Nanak, if some one embraces Lord's meditation,
ਗੁਰੂਜੀਆਖਦੇਹਨ, ਜੇਕਰਕੋਈਜਣਾਸਾਹਿਬਦੀਬੰਦਗੀਧਾਰਨਕਰਲਵੇ,
ਸਾਚੀ ਬਾਣੀਸਿਉਧਰੇਪਿਆਰੁ॥
साचीबाणीसिउधरेपिआरु॥
Sācẖī baṇī si*o ḏẖarė pi*ār.
and enshrines affection for the True Gurbani,
ਅਤੇ "ਸੱਚੀਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ" ਪਿਰਹੜੀਪਾਲਵੇ,
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19100
ਤਾਕੋਪਾਵੈਮੋਖਦੁਆਰੁ॥
ताकोपावैमोखदुआरु॥
Ŧā ko pāvai mokẖ ḏu*ār.
then alone attains he to the gate of salvation.
ਤਦਉਹਮੁਕਤੀਦੇਦਰਵਾਜੇਨੂੰਪ੍ਰਾਪਤਕਰਲੈਂਦਾਹੈ।
ਜਪੁਤਪੁਸਭੁਇਹੁਸਬਦੁਹੈਸਾਰੁ॥੫॥੨॥੪॥ Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19100 जपुतपुसभुइहुसबदुहैसारु॥५॥२॥४॥ Jap ṯap sabẖ ih sabaḏ hai sār. ||5||2||4|| This meditation of the Lord is the essence of all the worship and penances. ਸਾਈਂਦੀਇਹਬੰਦਗੀਸਾਰੀਆਂਉਪਾਸ਼ਨਾਂਤੇਤਪੱਸਿਆਦਾਨਿਚੋੜਹੈ।
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23-May-2008, 18:33 PM
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I do respect your opinion. However, this katha is very popular at all the Boards. I am just posting it as a view of someone who must have devoted quite a time on this.
if there is something objectionable ,let it be informed .I shall stop it. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19100
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