Creators created this creation.

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Sikh Ji,

Can you tell how many creators?

AMqu n jwpY kIqw Awkwru ] (5-8, jpu, mÚ 1)
The limits of the created universe cannot be perceived.
AMqu n jwpY pwrwvwru ] (5-8, jpu, mÚ 1)
Its limits here and beyond cannot be perceived.
AMq kwrix kyqy ibllwih ] (5-8, jpu, mÚ 1)
Many struggle to know His limits,
qw ky AMq n pwey jwih ] (5-9, jpu, mÚ 1)
but His limits cannot be found.
eyhu AMqu n jwxY koie ] (5-9, jpu, mÚ 1)
No one can know these limits.
Guru Nanak dev ji in Jap ji sahib...
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Guru Nanak ji even did not know the limit Of creation. How can he be the creator?

HE IS ONE ;THE TRUTH,



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whether spelled as creator/s is meaningless.Good pun,

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just curious, but where is it stated?

waheguru only comes in two shabads in SGGS that i know of, neither of them by Guru Nanak Dev ji.

i've always wondered where we got this myself.

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May be you are right.It should be atleast 3/4 times.I am not sure. Wahegur is satated in Swayee by Bhatts.[ poets.] I shall also have to look into to find out where exactly 'waheguru'has appeared. I think it should be in the second half and somewhere aroung ang 1400 +-30pages.

Regarding Nanak dev ji's meditating on wahegurr, I shall have to check .

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I am not trying to preach against Sikhi and not trying to break down its belief systems(like some people think, you know who u r), In fact I think Sikhi is the best religion known to man(and woman). But I have a few things stuck in my head, if anyone can shed some light on these things that would be awesome. Please organize your posts in the numbers as suggested. Thanks. BTW IF someone asked me these questions,I would have a valid reply for them.
1. Can the creator BE the creation? Yes or no?
1. Yes? Explain.
1. No? Then there is something that the creator cannot do as He/She cannot BE the creation! Therefore, there ARE limits!

2. Can the creator have a form?
2. Yes? But in SGGS it says that He/She doesn't!? So explain.
2. No? Again, there is something the creator cannot do and does not have!

3. <to be continued>

I was going to compile all my questions and make a new topic but thanks to SIkh80's FAQs, I am going to put these here, if no one minds or thinks I am anti-Sikh .

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Jasleen ji and Sikh80

At this link:
NationMaster - Encyclopedia: Waheguru
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Waheguru (and its variant, Wahguru) is used only 16 times in the Guru Granth Sahib. Of these, Waheguru occurs 9 times on page 1402 and 4 times on page 1403. Wahguru occurs 2 times on page 1403 and 1 time on page 1404.
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A caution about the above link. There are some serious errors. On Ang 1402 and 1403 - the Bani is of Bhagat Gayand. Also found in the bani of Guru Amardas ji 96 times but not as Waheguru or Vaheguru, but in various combinations, such as vahi, vahi, vahi.

Bhai Gurdas discusses this name for God, but I sense that some of us would rather not go there tonight. So I will honor that.

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ਮਨ ਕਰਹਲਾ ਗੁਰ ਗੋਵਿੰਦੁ ਸਮਾਲਿ ॥ man karehalaa gur govindh samaal O camel-like mind, dwell upon the Guru and the Lord of the Universe.

Thanks for input.We needed it. Regarding spl. waheguru or Vaheguru, it means same.It is the choice of the translator.

Dear Bhagat ji,

I think you should post yoour queries in a new thread.The topic may be of interest to others and we may as well learn.

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we just need to be careful. there are some big panga mistakes in that article. so maybe the number is not right either.

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ਮਨ ਕਰਹਲਾ ਗੁਰ ਗੋਵਿੰਦੁ ਸਮਾਲਿ ॥ man karehalaa gur govindh samaal O camel-like mind, dwell upon the Guru and the Lord of the Universe.

You may try to give the correct figures if you can.

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