Amarpal ji's post #41 absolutely blew my mind. He has put into better words part of what I've been thinking about lately.
Some threads over the past few months about consonance and the physical world, about creation being an ever-changing manifestation of the Creative Force got me thinking about the universality of physical substance. When I die, the creative substance that is me will be reabsorbed as raw material into the creative soup. The carbon of my ashes will be scattered and form a countless number of other things, I can't comprehend. The physical stuff I am made from has been here since the beginning and will be here until the very end unimaginable. It is not MY stuff, it belongs to the Universe.
And that got me thinking about the intangible stuff on the inside, and I wondered about my soul and reincarnation, etc.
I read an article quoted earlier in the thread:
Does Sikhism Believe in Reincarnation? by Baldev Singh Ji. I like his thinking!
However, I feel the thoughts are still incomplete. To quote from the article:
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Besides, the Sikh Gurus rejected the notion of past life or the life after death, and made it abundantly clear that the present life is the only chance to realize God. For example: O my mind, my dear friend, this is the time for you to meet the Creator. Moreover, this opportunity will last only as long as the body is healthy and full of vitality. AGGS, M 1, p. 20 Take advantage of your birth as a human, this is your only opportunity to meet God. AGGS, M 5, p. 378 “Don’t look to the past, make efforts to make your future life successful by meeting God, because you won’t be born again,” says Nanak. AGGS, M 5, p. 1096 “You won’t be born again, take some measures to obtain salvation right now. Praising the Merciful One, will take you across the ocean of worldly temptations,” says Nanak. AGGS, M 9, p. 220
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(I hope the tuks in the quote aren't breach of ToS - if they are let me know and I'll post the entire shabads, thanks)
My question then is:
If the soul is Creative Force, then who is supposed to be desperate to realise the Creative Force, and attain salvation? It's all Creative Force - there is nothing higher! Unless salvation is an experience of this human life, this collection of carbon molecules, and nothing beyond that. Gee it's hard to explain.
There is no separation... The immaterial creative force has gathered it's own material creative essence to form this body... the person that is me is part of the body and will expire with the body -- I myself the ego will cease to exist (and not go to heaven with all it's friends, as it would like to believe as it is selfish and self-preserving). The observer part of me is actually the creative force itself... which will become part of the greater light of itself once this body has expired...
So in fact "I" am nothing more than a product of my biology. Which is wonderful and glorious as an expression of creation, but it will cease to exist and then there is nothing left but Creative Essence. Whose to say the soul part of me isn't redistributed just like my carbon will be? Not as an entity, not as an ego-self, not as an identity, just like my carbon does not retain my identity...
I feel like my mind is treading a path of nullification lately.. like I'm coming upon the spiritual equivelant of atheism. It's hard to explain. When you think you can't tell the difference between where the creative force ends and YOU begin, or the other way around, there is nothing left.
*brain explodey smiley*
Do I make ANY sense? Even in my own mind I can only hold on to the coherancy of it for a second or two and then I'm confused again. Maybe someone who recognises these thought processes can give me a hand before I turn myself into a puff of air and disappear into the 1+1=0 infinite loop thingy I've got myself stuck in.
I'm a bit worried about my world-view lately too - I took the Beliefnet Belief-O-Matic again the other day (as I do periodically) and apparently I'm more HINDU than I am SIKH! AAAAHHH!!!