
06-Feb-2007, 19:37 PM
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| | | | | | | Helped needed on page 1410 of Guru Granth Sahib I have pasted the 1st Mehl of page 1410 of the Guru Granth Sahib. However, I need someone just to clarify the first 4 lines for me please: ਉਤੰਗੀਪੈਓਹਰੀਗਹਿਰੀਗੰਭੀਰੀ॥ utangee pai-ohree gahiree gambheeree. O you with swollen breasts, let your consciousness become deep and profound. ਸਸੁੜਿਸੁਹੀਆਕਿਵਕਰੀਨਿਵਣੁਨਜਾਇਥਣੀ॥ sasurh suhee-aa kiv karee nivan na jaa-ay thanee. O mother-in-law, how can I bow? Because of my stiff nipples, I cannot bow. ਗਚੁਜਿਲਗਾਗਿੜਵੜੀਸਖੀਏਧਉਲਹਰੀ॥ gach je lagaa girvarhee sakhee-ay Dha-ulharee. O sister, those mansions built as high as mountains - ਸੇਭੀਢਹਦੇਡਿਠੁਮੈਮੁੰਧਨਗਰਬੁਥਣੀ॥੧॥ say bhee dhahday dith mai munDh na garab thanee. ||1|| I have seen them come crumbling down. O bride, do not be so proud of your nipples. ||1|| Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/14993-helped-needed-page-1410-guru-granth.html ਸੁਣਿਮੁੰਧੇਹਰਣਾਖੀਏਗੂੜਾਵੈਣੁਅਪਾਰੁ॥ sun munDhay harnaakhee-ay goorhaa vain apaar. O bride with deer-like eyes, listen to the words of deep and infinite wisdom. ਪਹਿਲਾਵਸਤੁਸਿਞਾਣਿਕੈਤਾਂਕੀਚੈਵਾਪਾਰੁ॥ pahilaa vasat sinjaan kai taaN keechai vaapaar. First, examine the merchandise, and then, make the deal. ਦੋਹੀਦਿਚੈਦੁਰਜਨਾਮਿਤ੍ਰਾਂਕੂੰਜੈਕਾਰੁ॥ Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=14993 dohee dichai durjanaa mitraaN kooN jaikaar. Proclaim that you will not associate with evil people; celebrate victory with your friends. ਜਿਤੁਦੋਹੀਸਜਣਮਿਲਨਿਲਹੁਮੁੰਧੇਵੀਚਾਰੁ॥ jit dohee sajan milan lahu munDhay veechaar. This proclamation, to meet with your friends, O bride - give it some thought. ਤਨੁਮਨੁਦੀਜੈਸਜਣਾਐਸਾਹਸਣੁਸਾਰੁ॥ tan man deejai sajnaa aisaa hasan saar. Surrender mind and body to the Lord your Friend; this is the most excellent pleasure. ਤਿਸਸਉਨੇਹੁਨਕੀਚਈਜਿਦਿਸੈਚਲਣਹਾਰੁ॥ tis sa-o nayhu na keech-ee je disai chalanhaar. Do not fall in love with one who is destined to leave. ਨਾਨਕਜਿਨ੍ਹ੍ਹੀਇਵਕਰਿਬੁਝਿਆਤਿਨ੍ਹ੍ਹਾਵਿਟਹੁਕੁਰਬਾਣੁ॥੨॥ naanak jinHee iv kar bujhi-aa tinHaa vitahu kurbaan. ||2|| O Nanak, I am a sacrifice to those who understand this. ||2|| ਜੇਤੂੰਤਾਰੂਪਾਣਿਤਾਹੂਪੁਛੁਤਿੜੰਨ੍ਹ੍ਹਕਲ॥ jay tooN taaroo paan taahoo puchh tirhHaN-nH kal. If you wish to swim across the water, then consult those who know how to swim. ਤਾਹੂਖਰੇਸੁਜਾਣਵੰਞਾਏਨ੍ਹ੍ਹੀਕਪਰੀ॥੩॥ taahoo kharay sujaan vanjaa aynHee kapree. ||3|| Those who have survived these treacherous waves are very wise. ||3|| ਝੜਝਖੜਓਹਾੜਲਹਰੀਵਹਨਿਲਖੇਸਰੀ॥ jharh jhakharh ohaarh lahree vahan lakhaysaree. The storm rages and the rain floods the land; thousands of waves rise and surge. ਸਤਿਗੁਰਸਿਉਆਲਾਇਬੇੜੇਡੁਬਣਿਨਾਹਿਭਉ॥੪॥ satgur si-o aalaa-ay bayrhay duban naahi bha-o. ||4|| If you cry out for help from the True Guru, you have nothing to fear - your boat will not sink. ||4|| ਨਾਨਕਦੁਨੀਆਕੈਸੀਹੋਈ॥ naanak dunee-aa kaisee ho-ee. O Nanak, what has happened to the world? ਸਾਲਕੁਮਿਤੁਨਰਹਿਓਕੋਈ॥ saalak mit na rahi-o ko-ee. There is no guide or friend. ਭਾਈਬੰਧੀਹੇਤੁਚੁਕਾਇਆ॥ bhaa-ee banDhee hayt chukaa-i-aa. There is no love, even among brothers and relatives. ਦੁਨੀਆਕਾਰਣਿਦੀਨੁਗਵਾਇਆ॥੫॥ dunee-aa kaaran deen gavaa-i-aa. ||5|| For the sake of the world, people have lost their faith. ||5||
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06-Feb-2007, 20:02 PM
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| | | | | Re: Helped needed on page 1410 of Guru Granth Sahib Quote:
Originally Posted by MKAUR1981 I have pasted the 1st Mehl of page 1410 of the Guru Granth Sahib. However, I need someone just to clarify the first 4 lines for me please: ਉਤੰਗੀਪੈਓਹਰੀਗਹਿਰੀਗੰਭੀਰੀ॥ utangee pai-ohree gahiree gambheeree. O you with swollen breasts, let your consciousness become deep and profound. ਸਸੁੜਿਸੁਹੀਆਕਿਵਕਰੀਨਿਵਣੁਨਜਾਇਥਣੀ॥ sasurh suhee-aa kiv karee nivan na jaa-ay thanee. O mother-in-law, how can I bow? Because of my stiff nipples, I cannot bow. ਗਚੁਜਿਲਗਾਗਿੜਵੜੀਸਖੀਏਧਉਲਹਰੀ॥ gach je lagaa girvarhee sakhee-ay Dha-ulharee. O sister, those mansions built as high as mountains - ਸੇਭੀਢਹਦੇਡਿਠੁਮੈਮੁੰਧਨਗਰਬੁਥਣੀ॥੧॥ say bhee dhahday dith mai munDh na garab thanee. ||1|| I have seen them come crumbling down. O bride, do not be so proud of your nipples. ||1|| ----------------------------------------
---------------------------------------- | This is a Metaphoric expression of a talk between two persons-one who is an egoistic and the other is a gyani. First two lines express- egoistic person drenched with ego does not want to practice humbleness, Next two lines express- Gyani tells the other that he has seen the worst egoistics crumbling down. | 
06-Feb-2007, 20:40 PM
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| | | | | | | Re: Helped needed on page 1410 of Guru Granth Sahib WJKK WJKF
Sorry to be naive, but even used as a metaphor what are the words breast and nipples representing? | 
06-Feb-2007, 21:26 PM
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| | | | | Re: Helped needed on page 1410 of Guru Granth Sahib Quote:
Originally Posted by MKAUR1981 WJKK WJKF
Sorry to be naive, but even used as a metaphor what are the words breast and nipples representing? | It represents the newly bride’s full body(a young girl with full breasts), which is making her so proud of it that she does not want to bend down to touch her mother in-laws feet. So her pride for the outer beauty does not let her to be humble. All that is mortal is impressing her too much and she is ready to forsake her real duty. | 
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