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Sat Shri Akal

I have always wondered why the Gurus did not mention the Bhagavad Gita in their poetry. I don't claim to have read the entire Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji (because I haven't), but I have read the entire English translation of the Gita (and read JapJi Sahib, and Sukhmani Sahib) and I was wondering if my fellow Sikhs (and Non-Sikhs) could shed some light on the fact that something (Gita) that is so similar to our religion is not mentioned.
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For example, amongst the many topics that are similar...Shree Krishna talks about the "Taamsic", "Raajsic", and "Saatvic" stages of spiritual evolution. I cannot recall 100% if he mentioned the "Turiya" stage (which is above the last three). These stages are mentioned in the Sukhmani Sahib too, where the Brahm Gyaani (as far as I can recall) is said to be above tamas, rajas, and satvic, and is actually in the Turiya stage.

This is just one small example of the many similarities between the two texts. Can anyone possibly wonder why it wasn't mentioned? I can only think of a few reasons. Shree Krishan (I actually use Shree because I don't mean to offend anyone, and do not worship him) asks Arjun to pray and think of him (not God) in times of difficulties. Furthermore, Shree Krishan is often portrayed as someone with some sort of a promiscuous (for lack of word) life, and we Sikhs are suppose to stay away from that sort of Lust. Maybe it's my lack of knowledge that makes me say this.

I do not mean to say that the Gurus stole knowledge from the Gita and did not make claim. That is a ridiculous argument because the Gurus were enlightened souls that were in connection with God. And that is why their message is similar to other souls connected with God (be it Bhagat Kabir jee or Shree Krishan (?)). OK before this gets too confusing and long I must end this and continue after some responses!

So if someone could shed any light, that would be great!
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Re: Bhagavad Gita and Gurbani

THE SIKH GURUS ARE UNIQUE IN THEIR COMPOSITION, AND THE ORIGINAL COMPILLER GURU ARJAN DEV JI MAHARAJ WAS A GREAT CLASS OF HIS OWN. IN TODAYS SENSE HE IS A NOBEL PRICE WINNER. HE DID NOT APPROVE NOR DID HE ROMANCE WITH THE IDOL WORSHIPPERS, WHICH IS COMMON IN HIDUISM. ALL OF GURU NANAK ADDMONITIONS ON ANYTHING AT ALL WAS NAAM.
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FURTHER GURUBANI IS A BIG BANQUET OF SPIRITUALITY, AND IF ALL SPIRITUAL VALUES IN ALL OTHER RELIGIOUS BOOKS ARE GATHERED TOGETHER THEY WOULD NOT FORM ONE TENTH OF WHAT IS CONTAINED IN GUBANI.

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