English Girl with Ik Oankaar Tattoo

Actually if Kanwardeep Singh ji's points are not taken seriously, the entire thread will go into the wastebasket. And I will be watching carefully to see if this is a spamming situation which can lead to a permanent ban.
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I have also changed the spelling of ek Omkar to Ik Oankar in the title thread and fixed punctuation.
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The conversation is going nowhere Jane2010 and things are not looking positive.

As you are the moderator of the site, i would like to inform you thst i feel i'm being bullied on here, i have alreday appolgised for starting new threads as i said i'm new to all this i wasn't sure what to do (thanks for the help) i just get comments like im a fake and that i may get banned! do u really think i'm going to pass time by just making up stories!!!! well believe me i'm not. i'm going through hell right now in my relationship with my partner i hope one day we can live a normal life.

In that case you need to think very very carefully about where your relationship is going. If you are not in love can you really have a future? Will you really be prepared to face the storm? Marriage is not something to be taken lightly-it should be a lifelong commitment. If you are not in love and things can finish anytime it is not fair to bring the family into the picture as you will break their heart. First decide where your relationship is going and how serious it is then ask for advise accordingly. Thats my advice!
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Jasleen Kaur

Hello jane ji, Personally I don't feel comfortable with this kind of relations WHEN you don't know long term relations will effect ( Its not only my personal view) Its a fact. Think about present and future now at the same time .When there is a not strong foundation of the building how could your building would be solid. Do the math now and future think from all corners you will find all the answers. In my view marriage is not only for two people its for both side family relations TOO. In any course or addmisson you need some requirments if you don't have it you can't get the addmisson.This kind off relation ship more like selfishness then marriage.True LOVE is for others not only limited to me me and me. I am totally agree with jasleen kaur.

Thats true, i wonder why cause of a certain lady who has caused this rubbish, i'm sorry i guess i should never of signed up in the first place, its a shame really as this is the first site where i have read stories which i can relate too, it gave me some comfort. i never attended to cause any trouble and don't think i have, i'm new to this site ans wasn't sure if i had to start a new thread! i didnt even no what (thread) ment we dont say that here in England.
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reguards
Jane

Thank you a. mother for you're comment, of course i love him, i wouldnt be with him if i didnt and especially going through a secret relationship were at present we can't do certain things like (normal) couples, like going cinema/going to dinner/walking down the street )-: i wouldnt be putting myself through it if i didnt love him. Marriage? i'm serious about marriage of course and only plan to marry once! we havent spoke about marriage thats why i havent mentioned anything about getting married. i'mj finding this situation very hard to deal with, you want to be with the man you love everday.... but i know i can handle this pain and im sure he is worth it.
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reguards
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Jane x

Ek Onkaar Sat Naam

Jane2010 ji, it is better not to mix up human relationships with spiritual matters. This site is fundamentally a religious forum. Obviously the members, including yourself have relationships, and such matters will be discussed from time to time. Many users will have very different cultural backgrounds to your own. You have to bear this in mind, and what you might see as a negative reaction, may be the norm in other cultures. The same will apply within the circles in which most of your family will have been brought up in. What people from S Asian backgrounds may see as negative, may be seen by the people you are most likely to associate with, as the norm, or the standard by which to measure things. There is unlikely to be any intentional attempt to malign you in any way, but sometimes meanings are lost in communication. Some understand intuitively, without any words, whilst others read into every single word, and look out for any deep meanings. It is just the way people are. Try not to get cross, or angry. We strive to understand each other, to form a global multi-cultural society in which people do not look for differences before common features, but that is still a goal.
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Regards to your relationship, the strongest relationships are built on trust, and understanding of each other. Arranged marriages begin with no love, yet love blossoms in them. If you can relate well to "S" then maybe you have something to build on. You will have to jointly decide how to progress the matter, and if it means something to you both, then it is not for the members of this forum or your repective families to intervene. It is your personal affair.
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With respect to the tattoo, different people will see this differently. I know many people with tattoos, either of "Ek OnKaar" or a "Khanda" and have not come across any rejection of these people, or negative comments about the tattoos. Something you read in the papers, is not always representative of what goes on in real life.

Sat Sri Akal

Thank you sunmukh for your'e comment, your'e comment really said it all, i want you too know i have alot of respect for all cultues and believe in a global multi-cultural society also, being a nurse i have to treat all races and have many friends who are asian and strongly repsect asian culture.
I never wanted to come across angry but felt some people wasn't giving me a chance to get my message across.
Myself and (S) do really trust eachother, we have such a wonderful relationship, i don't want to sound soppy but we can just stare at eachother all day (: i pray every night that when(S) does tell his parents they will like me, it's hard to understand how culture can stand in the way of two people being in love, being in love is the most beautiful feeling in the world, we both repect eachothers cultures, I have done alot of research about sikhisium and have found sikhisium to be a very loving and beautiful way of life.
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I really love my tattoo, (S) was so happy when i showed him, it was worth all that pain when i saw his face , i love the design and also the meaning. i would never want to offend anyone by having this tattoo.

I would like to say a very deep deep thank you for showing kindness i really appreciate it
kind reguards
Jane