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| | | | | Re: Anti sikh websites Narayanjot Kaur ji Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/general/30518-anti-sikh-websites.html
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Many thanks for the clarification – it is very useful. Although I operate my own little site, dedicated entirely to Gurbani, I am not familiar with the technicalities. When I talked about starting my own site with some dedicated Sikh friends the response was “Have you seen how many sites there already are? What difference would one more make?" I can, now, see what they meant. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=30518
There are far too many, many with their own agenda and ‘axe to grind’, and it is quite important that we are able to distinguish the genuine ones from the rest. However, even on the most dedicated sites, it is inevitable to have differences of opinion, as sometimes we have on SPN, but that is part and parcel of healthy debate and exchange of ideas. Such debate/discussion must be based on one truth, that is, we all accept the teachings Guru Granth Sahib Ji, without reservation. The authority of the Sikh Gurus vests in Guru Granth Sahib, which must be given the same respect, loyalty and authority accorded to Guru Nanak and his nine successors. Any site which deviates from this is doing a great disservice to Sikhi and we must be wary of them.
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22-May-2010, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Aman Singh | I would indeed say, Aman ji, that they have adopted a "vedantic posture." The Reality Seekers site publishes a lot of misleading and at times completely incorrect information. It is worth taking each issues and starting a thread to clear the fog. | | The following members appreciate Narayanjot Kaur Ji for the above message. | | 
22-May-2010, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by arshi Narayanjot Kaur ji
Gurfateh
Many thanks for the clarification – it is very useful. Although I operate my own little site, dedicated entirely to Gurbani, I am not familiar with the technicalities. When I talked about starting my own site with some dedicated Sikh friends the response was “Have you seen how many sites there already are? What difference would one more make?" I can, now, see what they meant.
There are far too many, many with their own agenda and ‘axe to grind’, and it is quite important that we are able to distinguish the genuine ones from the rest. However, even on the most dedicated sites, it is inevitable to have differences of opinion, as sometimes we have on SPN, but that is part and parcel of healthy debate and exchange of ideas. Such debate/discussion must be based on one truth, that is, we all accept the teachings Guru Granth Sahib Ji, without reservation. The authority of the Sikh Gurus vests in Guru Granth Sahib, which must be given the same respect, loyalty and authority accorded to Guru Nanak and his nine successors. Any site which deviates from this is doing a great disservice to Sikhi and we must be wary of them. | I know I try to keep my blog, The Road To Khalistan genuinely Panthic. Our original purpose was simply to tell the truth about what happened to us in 1984. Over the years, that has expanded to my speaking my mind on a number of subjects. I try to be careful, though, that anyone stumbling in won't get a distorted view of Sikhi. I have an agenda and I am pretty up-front about it, I hope. I want everyone to know the truth about what happened in 1984. I support the establishment of Khalistan in Punjab. I follow the SRM, although I believe it needs revision. I deeply wish for unity in the Panth. The traditional Sikh virtue of chardi kala, seemingly in hibernation since 1984 needs to be revived in a big way. I enjoy being a Sikh.
I know some of my views, specifically in supporting Khalistan, are controversial, but I think none of them contradict anything in Shri Guru Granth Sahib. My guiding principle, the test I use for every post, is always: Would I be ashamed or embarrassed if Guru Gobind Singh ji read it? If it doesn't pass that test, it doesn't get posted.
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23-May-2010, 02:38 AM
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| | | | | Re: Anti sikh websites Mai Harinder Kaur ji Gurfateh This is the first time I am addressing you directly. I have had the pleasure of reading many of your posts and admire you a lot for your candidness, articulate expression of thought, and passion for Sikhi. It felt strange, at first, addressing you as ‘Mai’ since I often refer to ladies much older than me by this title revered title. The fact that I am somewhat older than you, but only in worldly age, was the main reason for my mental stutter. On second thought I realized that on the scale of wisdom and spirituality you are far ahead of me and your thoughts and philosophy far weightier than mine. Returning to the topic, there is absolutely nothing wrong, in my opinion, in having an agenda – we all do when we set upon a task we believe in. If the intention is sincere and noble it is a worthwhile cause. I personally set myself aims and objectives when launching arshiwaves.co.uk amongst which were: “AW has been set up to propagate the teachings of the Sikh Gurus initially through shabad kirtan and articles but subsequently, with the Grace of Guru, through other media such as DVDs, books etc. This is a humble attempt and with Guru Nanak’s blessings and the support of Sadh Sangat we hope to make some impact on the spiritual structure of our society. The mission of AW extends further than this, in that it aims to foster good relationships with people of other religions. We aim to show how one can be a good Sikh and at the same time a good human being. The teachings of any religion are the means and not the end, in that we use them to become good human beings.” Lofty objectives and I am no where near achieving even a fraction of these. Quote: | The traditional Sikh virtue of chardi kala, seemingly in hibernation since 1984 needs to be revived in a big way. I enjoy being a Sikh. | These are precisely my own sentiments. In fact the first article I wrote was titled “Why I am Sikh” reflecting how lucky I was to be a part of Sikhi. Quote: | My guiding principle, the test I use for every post, is always: Would I be ashamed or embarrassed if Guru Gobind Singh ji read it? If it doesn't pass that test, it doesn't get posted. | An excellent idea – it always helps to be focused if we operate within parameters based on good ethics. Our Gurus emphasized truthful living above anything else.
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23-May-2010, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by arshi Mai Harinder Kaur ji Gurfateh This is the first time I am addressing you directly. I have had the pleasure of reading many of your posts and admire you a lot for your candidness, articulate expression of thought, and passion for Sikhi. It felt strange, at first, addressing you as ‘Mai’ since I often refer to ladies much older than me by this title revered title. The fact that I am somewhat older than you, but only in worldly age, was the main reason for my mental stutter. On second thought I realized that on the scale of wisdom and spirituality you are far ahead of me and your thoughts and philosophy far weightier than mine. Returning to the topic, there is absolutely nothing wrong, in my opinion, in having an agenda – we all do when we set upon a task we believe in. If the intention is sincere and noble it is a worthwhile cause. I personally set myself aims and objectives when launching arshiwaves.co.uk amongst which were: “AW has been set up to propagate the teachings of the Sikh Gurus initially through shabad kirtan and articles but subsequently, with the Grace of Guru, through other media such as DVDs, books etc. This is a humble attempt and with Guru Nanak’s blessings and the support of Sadh Sangat we hope to make some impact on the spiritual structure of our society. The mission of AW extends further than this, in that it aims to foster good relationships with people of other religions. We aim to show how one can be a good Sikh and at the same time a good human being. The teachings of any religion are the means and not the end, in that we use them to become good human beings.” Lofty objectives and I am no where near achieving even a fraction of these. These are precisely my own sentiments. In fact the first article I wrote was titled “Why I am Sikh” reflecting how lucky I was to be a part of Sikhi. An excellent idea – it always helps to be focused if we operate within parameters based on good ethics. Our Gurus emphasized truthful living above anything else.
Kind regards
Rajinder Singh 'Arshi' | Hi, Arshi (Rajinder Singh) ji!
Vaheguru ji ka khalsa! Vaheguru ji ki fateh!!
I am just a simple Sikh sister who has lived a complicated life. Really there's nothing special about me beyond having an incredible Dad who actually practiced the Sikhi principles such as female equality and broad-minded acceptance of others around him. As for my being called Mai, there is a story behind that; if you`re interested, it can be found at Mai? Mai. Mai!
I agree that having an agenda is OK, necessary even, as long as it's clear and open. Hidden agendas are not good, generally speaking. I have just been looking over your website. I very much like the clean, uncluttered look. That makes it very inviting. I read part of it and enjoy it very much. My only suggestion would be to add more to it! Being a bit of a child at heart, I went to check out the Photo Gallery. Alas! Nothing happened. I think most of us do like pictures a lot.
I love being Sikh and I'm glad it shows. I don't see it as luck, though; I see it as blessing.
I have put together a small website just to thank the people I feel like thanking. Please visit it if you would like. Thanks, Chardi Kala and Gurufateh.
My family think that I am entirely too candid,  . I think for me it is important to aim higher than I can achieve. My experience is that I never fly any higher than I aim for. Are you familiar with the song "The Impossible Dream"? My way of life, I think a not-too-bad description of being a Sikh comes from the last lines of that song, as sung in the finale of the play/movie, Man of La Mancha: To reach the unreachable star,
Though you know it's impossibly high,
To live with your heart striving upward
To a far, unattainable sky!
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24-May-2010, 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Narayanjot Kaur aim hundal ji
I checked and received a Forbidden. You don't have access to this server on both links. What did you post as the http://address?
Seems odd because I have visited both sites in the past.
Hmm. | I have visited both sites today at 4.20 pm TRUE SIKHISM and wwwgranthsahib.org | 
24-May-2010, 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by hardipsingh I have visited both sites today at 4.20 pm TRUE SIKHISM and wwwgranthsahib.org |
Yes, indeed, it/they is/are back up and running. What a pile! Ah, well, we've overcome worse than this in the past, and we will overcome this. | 
24-May-2010, 04:24 AM
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| | | | | Re: Anti sikh websites Mai Harinder Kaur ji Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh Quote: | As for my being called Mai, there is a story behind that; if you`re interested, it can be found at Mai? Mai. Mai! | I did read the above and found it quite interesting but could not help chuckle a couple of times while reading and to cap it “The boy and the new-born baby just stared into each other's eyes. ……….. That ten year old boy was Mani. We were married 18 years later to the day.” was unique. Was it love at first sight? Quote: | I have just been looking over your website. I very much like the clean, uncluttered look. That makes it very inviting. I read part of it and enjoy it very much. My only suggestion would be to add more to it! Being a bit of a child at heart, I went to check out the Photo Gallery. Alas! Nothing happened. I think most of us do like pictures a lot. | When I first set up the site, it was merely to upload my albums (the three I had produced and future ones). But my interest began shifting more towards writing and now I wish to dedicate it purely to Gurbani articles/interpretation and kirtan recordings (15 shabads – recorded in Mumbai - have already been uploaded). Since setting it up, time has been the major issue due to work and other engagements. All that is happening now is uploading of articles as and when I write them. With Waheguru’s blessings I hope to develop the site – apending money is no objective as I regard this as nishkam sewa and my idea of ‘dusbandh’. I had uploaded some personal photos but had these removed as I intend them to be more meaningful and cover a wider spectrum. Quote: | I love being Sikh and I'm glad it shows. I don't see it as luck, though; I see it as blessing. | Absolutely ji – let us say I have been 'lucky' to have received this blessing . Kind regards 'Arshi' | | The following members appreciate arshi Ji for the above message. | | 
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| | | | | Re: Anti sikh websites Yeah, my Mai-ing is quite funny. I wish I could remember it. I grew up with that story about upchucking on Mani. BTW, Mani was my youngest brother's best friend and the son of Dad's business partner, so he was always around. "Love at first sight"? There was certainly no one else for either of us, but I think he and I have been dancing in and out of each other's lives for a long, long time! I have also written about him. Mani . That's my love story, told when I first started blogging. These blogs and websites have a way of taking on a life of their own. They are almost alive, changing and growing in sometimes odd directions, and like life itself leading us down roads we had never thought about walking on. (  !  I'm waxing poetic. Forgive me. I get like that sometimes.)
I have never spent a penny - or a paise - on any of my sites. In fact, I have little cash of any kind. I seem to be provided with what I need. Even this computer was a gift from a very generous friend who had all he could take of my old, ancient computer. Somehow, it all works out. I have absolute confidence that every thing that happens in the Hukam of Vaheguru, so I have nothing to be concerned about.
As I have said, my Sikh beliefs are very basic and simple. I'm afraid I must leave the deep, meaningful stuff to those with more insight. I love to hear kirtan and read Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, although, even in translation, it often puzzles me. There are some here at SPN who have great insight and I listen very intently to them. | | The following members appreciate Mai Harinder Kaur Ji for the above message. | | 
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