You won't believe this... disturbing videos!

rajwinder ji what about the male calves castrated and forced to plough fields or pull load for their entire life with farmers hitting sticks in their private parts.what about the buffaloes tied in small sheds for their entire
forcing to produce as much milk as they can and their calves dieing of starvation.we humans having been using animals for thousands of years and it involve cruelity.the only thing we should avoid is to give unneccessary pain to the animals because we can't stop using them.
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We get human life by will of Akal,85 laacs is more to do with Hindus,Well if Akal want say in the case of Guru Dustdaman was reborn as Man only.

And we have same soul as in plant or animal,Sometime say in the case of 1857 freedom fighter Babu Kuwar Singh Ji of Bihar/Jharkhand,he was saved by cutting his hand by swrod as bullet it hit that.

So can we conclude it on "we should avoid givng pain to the animals / plants as much as we can.. WE cant stop this completly though ! "

Gurfateh

till we have term we with us, as we are the doer and can do or can not do,we have to go by the thuing that we are in duality and ego.

It is disgusting the terrible things that many animals go through everyday, through experiments, torture, being skinned alive and general mal-treatment, all at the expense of human greed and ignorance. I myself am a Vegitarian and i am currently trying to adapt to a Vegan diet. Surely if someone eats meat, it doesn't stop them from being shocked at the terrible conditions that animals have to put up with, even if they do eat them. Many of my friends eat meat and i do not hold it against them, i have my opinions and they have theirs. My main reason for not eating meat is the fact that i am pro-animal rights, but also health reasons (i have a heart condition) and because i don't like the taste of meat play a large part aswell. Each to their own, if someone wants to eat meat so be it, if they don't want to eat meat so be it.

To be honest, I don't think it is about opinions and letting the meat eating murders get on with it... my words may seem harsh, but what they are doing is harsh. I do not see meat eaters as having an opinion... at the end of the day, I believe slaughter and murder is wrong, meat eating cannot be brushed to one side as it as a thing that violates the right to life of another being. Out of all my ethical standards vegetarianism is the one that I would want to become law. All the other stuff - premarital intercourse etc. involves the individual and involves choices. What choice does the animal have when being murdered?
Eating meat is simply UNFORGIVABLE and barbaric as far as I am concerned.

caramel do you eat only organic food if not then you are also on the list of murderers.for growing vegetarian food millions of harmful insects as well as harmless insects are killed by using pesticides.200 years ago we were not using pesticides then why to use it now.
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if you drink milk then you in the list of people who give sufferings to the animals.just take a look at the following site

http://www.unhappycows.com/

Of course meat eating is barbaric and of course it is morally wrong, but i prefer not to enforce my opinions on others in a social ground like this, if an argument is put forward i will inform others of my opinions. Meat eating in my opinion is against natural living, we live in a society where one can sustain healthy (sometimes Healthier living than most) living through diets which do not lead to the suffering or consumption of other living creatures. Meat eating is humanities greed and need to establish dominance over nature itself - "By our actions we betray, the instincts in our race, by our blindness and stupidity, we kill everything". Believe me my friend, i have been pro-animal rights for years and i have been to many protests, but when i am put in a social ground like a forum or amongst friends i try my best not to argue, put my opinion forward yes, but i know it is extremely hard to stop a meat eater from eating meat, it is up to research and study on an individual level which causes one to eat or not eat meat. I made that decision long ago and have never ate meat since.

Gurfateh

Das supports wild life protection and last monday only visited Rajaji National Park in North India,where he could see jungle fowl,pea fowl,Spotted dear,Wild Boar.

but could only get the pugmarks and dung of Wild Tusker(elephant) and no signs of other big Fours ie Tiger,Leoprad,Sloth Bear and Himalayan Black bear.
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whjy das worte thing thing,In Jungle ecology we have carinvores and ominvores both Eating meat and killing herbivores.

We protect carinovrese and let them take thier pray as it is form of natirual eco system.Then i urban ecosystem we can be humane to kill animal as in India we do Jhatka way to kill animals(to se it we can visit amritworld.com and sarbloh.info).
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incidently about 1000 years ago ecosystem in scotland and other large parts of great britain was damaged. Das found during his stay in Uk about unattural quelling of deers some of them were introduced from outside,by humans.

Someone planeed to reintroduc Wolf,Black bear and bission in highlands but animal right people oppsed him.
Das can just say one thing that in wild predator parys on weak and sick animal as they are easy pray and healthy run away,by this they in fact prevent epidemic to wipe out whole the popultaion.So predator are must to preotect the native speices.

Say in UK already we have lost native red squireel to Amriacan Gray Squril.Such things are not good for ecology.Same we can say may apply to urban ecology.Anyway man is part of whole composite ecolgoy in biosphere.